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Wait so the EU can have a $7B windfall from a guilty verdict yet they will remain impartial? Nice!



If you seriously believe in such endemic corruption, you could equally fantasise that Google has enough money to buy a not-guilty verdict, yet the EU will remain impartial?


In fact, in the US, Google HAS bought a non-guilty verdict. The US counterpart of Ms. Vestager is the commissioner of the FTC. For two years, that person was a paid Google spokesperson, and the case against Google that had been building here in the US was found by their staff to have merit, yet quietly buried. As soon as their paid shill stepped down last year, the investigation was reopened.

(Sources can be provided. If you doubt any claim here, please ask!)


This is interesting information and worth bringing up. However, there are some important legal differences between a decision not to prosecute and a verdict in court.

For example, if Google had actually received a "not guilty" verdict on this issue, it wouldn't have been possible to reopen the investigation at all.


Yes, that's true.


I would be very interested in reading any sources on this you may choose to provide, if you please.


So, it starts with a slightly different form of sleezy behavior: Google paid a university to write "academic studies" that Google would then claim demonstrated that Google wasn't anticompetitive.

http://www.businessinsider.com/google-and-george-mason-unive...

One of the professors, who was the author of many of those "studies" is Joshua Wright, who thereafter took the FTC Commissioner position in 2013. Note that the Google checks to GMU started the same month as the FTC probe began.

http://www.salon.com/2015/11/24/googles_insidious_shadow_lob...

The FTC investigation around this time had found significant cause to go after Google:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-the-u-s-antitrust-probe-o...

Despite this, the FTC decided to close the investigation without any significant change on January 3rd, 2013:

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2013/01/googl...

And the Google-paid advocate above, Joshua Wright, was signed in as FTC Commissioner just ten days later:

https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/biographies/joshua-d-wright

Note that the close relationship between Google and this White House have been well documented. Googlers are some of Obama's top contributors in the previous Presidential election, numerous Googlers have taken high-ranking positions at the White House, and Google executives or representatives visit weekly. So I have a hard time buying that any of this is coincidence.

And the rumor is, that within like a month of Joshua Wright resigning, the FTC started investigating Google antitrust again.


The judges shouldn't be seeing a penny more or less no matter the verdict. If they're bribed that is another matter.


Judges may think of their families, communities, and countries; in something of this scale it would be hard to be impartial.


Judges may think of their families, communities, and countries; in something of this scale it would be hard to be impartial.

Compared to the combined national budgets of the EU member states the fine amount would be a rounding error.


How much of an effect would $6B really have on the EU? According to Wikipedia[0], their GDP is around $16,800 billion. If I were the judge I wouldn't see any reason to believe my community would derive any measurably benefit from that income.

If a politician came to them and said, "we're going to use that $6B to fund this particular program," well sure, but that would seem to be a subset of bribery.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union


But don't the judges work for the EU?


"EU" is a broad term. The legislature is a different branch to the executive ie the European Commission. Most here in the UK get it wrong too.


Yes, and their job is to interpret the law impartially. It isn't a perfect system. How would you suggest we improve upon it?


We could create a political body that is outside any of the countries. Everyone that agrees to be part of it will have to respect its decisions.

Once this is setup the world will be united. We can then call it the United Countries or something like that. It's going to be great!


And?


Are you suggesting that all the rulings from the EU Commission are ilegal and motivated by the fines they impose?




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