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"and respected" Seems perverse to conflate uppityness with being respected. I'd say it's quite the inverse.



Good point... I bungled my point :).

I think there is a "celebrity" version where external folks have a great deal of respect for the narrative/persona that they see publicly. A lot of times the "real story" is that the guy is a walking shitshow from the perspective of the folks around him.

Then you have the rare folks who are respected in the wider world and by their peers.




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