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My wife couldn't produce milk. My wife's niece wouldn't latch. There are a lot of people in these situations where, even if true, your reasoning does not apply.



So? As long as there are substantial number to whom it does apply, it will remain a real on-average sex difference.


I won't argue the differences, but there's no reason a child can't be breast-fed and also bottle-fed.

A young child will be nursing many times during a day, giving plenty of opportunities for a working mother to nurse their child without giving up time to work on their career. Feedings while the mother is out can be done by bottle using pumped milk, or through formula.

Sexual differences do not need to imply social advantage/disadvantage here ...


Actually, a lot of kids can't switch between bottle and breast (even with the new 'nipple imitation' designs) and they end up 'losing' the ability to drink from one of them


This sub-topic was about normalizing parental leave. Is your argument then that societal policy should only be based upon real on-average differences?


It may not be perfect, but policy real average data are probably better than policies based on ideology without average data?


Real average data is necessary but not sufficient. Policy should also consider the real outliers it may affect. So while you could argue that normalizing parental leave is unnecessary because children are better off with their mothers, we should do that while recognizing that it is not true for all family units. E.g. if there is no mother, or as in the examples I provided for the person I was replying to, there is a mother but breastfeeding is not possible.

Beyond that, if you adopt a policy that considers these outliers and normalize parental leave, there will be parents where breastfeeding is possible but the fathers still take the parental leave.


> Is your argument then that societal policy should only be based upon real on-average differences?

I wasn't actually making an argument beyond what I posted; if I was to provide an explanation of its relevance it is that it is a fairly common position that real and relevant differences are a necessary, but not necessarily, sufficient condition for policy distinctions, and that insofar as the subthread on the advantages of being with the mother was relevant to the broader subject to start with, it remained relevant (though not, in and of itself, demanding any particular conclusion) as long as there was a real, on-average difference.




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