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I'm not entirely clear on the difference between the regular Echo and the Echo Dot. It appears you have to have an original Echo in order to purchase a Dot. Is this simply an extension that proxies all of the requests back to the original Echo?



It's the Echo using your own speaker (it has a tiny one still). The "ordering through your existing FireTV/Echo" is just a stupid marketing ploy. As far as we know right not it does not talk to other Echo's on your network (no proxying/grid/mesh/etc).



Which is probably a link sent to you from your Echo, if you search it on amazon you just get this page http://smile.amazon.com/b/?node=14047587011


I think it's really "this is open beta/supply constraint, this makes sure only people already invested can get it". It's cute but pragmatic

disclaimer: work at Amazon, nowhere near echo


Ah, I didn't notice that it hooks up to existing speakers. I'm curious how many people will use that however. My anecdotal experience is that most of the people that actually own an Echo are fairly tech illiterate and benefit from it being an self contained package, but that may change if the Echo API is extended.


I was just thinking "I want echo with a speaker port" 3 days ago.

The thing I really really want from them is echo in the car.


You could put a Dot in your car. It's USB powered and you can plug it into your stereo with an AUX cable or some such. You would just need to tether your phone's wifi or have some other in-car wifi solution.


Lots of issues with hacking something together like that, though -- I really want something which ties into vehicle sensors, the can handle calls/mute/etc., mixing nav + voice + music dynamically, etc.

At that point it's basically worth building a car computer. Possibly using Alexa for the voice, but if I'm doing a car computer, I think a hack to work with Cortana or Google or Siri might be easier.

It's amazing no one has done a good job of this yet -- it's been within feasible for 10y, and commercially viable for 5y for big companies, or 2-3y for startups just using existing hw. I think it's because not enough good product/dev/etc. people have 1h+ car commutes.


I would be super interested in Echo in my car, but mostly because I don't have one of the fancy new cars that connects to my phone over bluetooth for that sort of stuff.


Me too -- I love my car (06 Audi) but the electronics were designed by a car company in 2000-2004 and thus very far out of date.

The right choice is probably a replacement nav and head unit. I'd rather have an old but nice car with great nav/ ent/etc, than a new car. I don't think I'm that unusual. I'd like to upgrade the electronics every couple years; happy to keep a car for 10-20y. Somehow those should mesh, but don't.


Ford announced an Alexa integration at CES this year.

http://www.geekwire.com/2016/ford-working-on-amazon-echo-int...


>It appears you have to have an original Echo in order to purchase a Dot.

Where do you get that? As far as I can tell, this looks like an Echo with minimal speakers.

[Edit: Ah. It's only available through voice shopping on either an Echo or Fire TV--though that would seem to be a marketing gimmick as opposed to a technical restriction]


> Echo Dot is available in limited quantities and exclusively for Prime members through Alexa Voice Shopping. To order your Echo Dot, use your Amazon Echo or Amazon Fire TV and just ask:

I guess technically you don't have to already have an Echo, but it is only available through voice shopping.



Thanks a lot! I knew somebody on HN would figure out how to order it without an echo.


Yeah, it looks like it's intended to kinda be an expansion to your existing system. So in a larger house where you can't talk to your Echo from everywhere, you could put a bunch of Echo Dots in different rooms. It looks like it's probably missing the audio quality speakers, I'd guess?




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