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It's interesting that I've had the complete opposite experience as a white man. The older I get the more respect I get in public, for no apparent reason. The painting example was so apt. No one would dare step between me and a painting. It's a very odd thing, as I don't feel like I deserve any more respect than I did 20 years ago.



how old are you, exactly? 40? 50? she is 76, and people definitely start treating you as she describes after ~60. your gender won't matter after that.

and this shouldn't be surprising to anyone. yes, there are a few out there that are able to stay strong even in that age bracket, but they are few.


Same here. I grew a beard and look quite a bit older with it, seems to get me a lot more respect. Terrorist jokes aside.

Said respect tends to disappear once I tell people I'm only 24, so I stopped doing that.


I've also started wearing a beard in the last 3 years. Maybe the beard is responsible!


When my hair went grey I started getting treated with respect instead of contempt by the cool dudes in guitar shops. I don't expect this to persist into my 60s though


Age is a weird prejudice because it depends so much on environment. In most companies, you're viewed negatively before age 30: you're expected to work the worst hours because the assumption is that you have nothing "better" to do and would just be out drinking. In Silicon Valley, you're viewed negatively after 30. Some doors close and others open.

I do find, strangely, that I'm way more attractive to women now that I'm older, even though my looks have (objectively) declined. Adolescent men are unwanted, invisible, and generally disliked by society unless they're in the top 5% for social skills; things get better at 25 and a lot better after 30... although I'm still glad that I married young because I'd imagine that the dating pool shrinks considerably.


> I do find, strangely, that I'm way more attractive to women now that I'm older, even though my looks have (objectively) declined.

Confidence and the way you carry yourself. In our teens and early twenties we tend to dress and act for others. As we get older that becomes less common, or we become better at selling our appearance (attire, demeanor, etc.) as ourselves and not a façade. Whether that's a hoodie and jeans and converse sneakers, or a suit and tie, or something in between doesn't matter (mostly).

Also, in your twenties you're still putting on muscle mass and filling out some. If you maintain decent physical conditioning you won't have that scrawnier look that a lot of teens have. You probably have broader shoulders and a fuller face than you did in your younger years, it looks healthier and more attractive, even if it's paired with gray hair and wrinkles.


> although I'm still glad that I married young because I'd imagine that the dating pool shrinks considerably.

it actually doesn't, in fact it grows continuously, but you'll just be shamed by older women and married men for dating younger women.


Shame on them for being so concerned about with what consenting adults do.

Select every argument about why it is none of their business to outlaw/shame homosexuality, Ctrl-C, Ctrl-P.


as soon as you start talking about what people are actually attracted to (not what they say they are), the shit starts to fly. my comment has swung up/down in votes throughout the day.


Yep... I didn't take my GF to the office Christmas party, cuz I didn't wanna hear the comments. ay!


Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/314/


>I'm still glad that I married young because I'd imagine that the dating pool shrinks considerably.

Why would it? If anything the number of single adults keeps growing each year.


But the number of single adults interested in people my age does not.


I find it's quite the opposite for me. Women find me significantly less attractive now that I'm in my mid thirties.




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