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>So, before capitalism, people didn't build widgets?

There was no "before capitalism".

>My point is that labour does not need capital to produce value (Although access to capital can increase the amount of value labour can produce.) Capital without labour is, quite obviously a lame duck.

Labor without capital is the same duck. Creating a business is risky, and someone has to be on the hook for that risk.

>Crediting the super-rich (A very few exceptions aside) for creating wealth is nonsense.

The super-rich are a sideshow. Most "capitalists" out there are people like you and me putting money into their 401(k) every paycheck.




How do you define capitalism? There are places that have money but lack sufficient property rights to support a system of capitalism.

i.e. "it's my land because I live here and work on it" vs "it's my land because I own a title deed as recognised by some authority".




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