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>Typeface design has a western normativity problem

Why does it seem like everything has a western normativity problem? What things have an eastern normativity problem?




It's a silly statement. Type, composed of little chunks of metal placed adjacent to each other, has a problem with scripts that aren't practically decomposable into little chunks placed adjacent to each other. But that's equally true of ‘western’ cursives and equally false of ‘eastern’ non-cursives, including Semitic scripts like Hebrew and Ethiopic, as well as South Arabian¹, which would have been perfectly suited to type but was displaced by the cursive Arabic script.

¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Arabian_alphabet


uhm, you do realize South Arabian alphabet was last in active use more than a thousand years ago. It now bears no resemblance to modern Arabic type. At all.

I'm reading your argument as suggesting that over a quarter billion Arabic native speakers should have learned a new script? Not sure if that was sarcastic. Either way, if you are making this argument, it is easier for these speakers to learn English instead..


The point is that the practicality of movable type for a script has nothing to do with whether or not the script is ‘western’.


Have you considered the trajectory of history over the last 500 years or so.


You'll have to enlighten me.


not the gp, but I think the parent commenter means that most technological advances of the last century took place in the West and thus suffers Euro/Western-centrism.

A thousand years ago, when the Islamic caliphate was a center of science and research, Farsi and Arabic were the major languages of scientific publications and inquiry, and there was likely Eastern-centrism in many of its aspects.

Software, programming language, web-design, typography, etc. was all developed for the west and internationallization was not a major concern. Consider, for example, the timetable for the development and standardization of ASCII vs UTF-8, as well as trends of the use of UTF-8 in the web (vs. ASCII) and browser support for UTF-8. Western-centrism is not the result of malice, but it still happens.

Take Medium, for example, which launched a few years ago without proper support for RTL languages and still doesn't do a good job at that. This is a classic trade-off you do when building an "MVP". The trouble is that there is an entire ecosystem where reasonable software-engineering tradeoffs read to one culture/set of cultures being prioritized over others. Short of people of RTL cultures creating their own twitter, medium, etc., there will always be a gap.

Of course, Arab developers, like many others, do try hard to bridge the gap. Edraak is a fork of the edX MOOC platform that added proper UTF-8 and RTL support to edX in the last year or so.




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