This is where small frameworks like Mithril shine. The site says 12KB, for some ...

lhorie · on Oct 20, 2015

Just came back to mention that two of the most well-known Mithril-based projects, Flarum.org[1] and Lichess.org[2] are open source and have mobile UIs that you can try out, so if anyone's interested in seeing non-trivial codebases that use a "lighter approach" alluded to in this article, there you go.

[1](https://github.com/flarum/flarum)

[2](https://github.com/veloce/lichobile)

pygy_ · on Oct 20, 2015

http://flarum.org/ is especially relevant since it is a competitor to Atwood's Discourse which sparked the current discussion.

http://lichess.org/ is an [f|F]ree online chess platform.

simplify · on Oct 20, 2015

Mithril is amazing. I've been using it for over a year and only like it more and more. Its fast initial load time is very relevant in today's world of mobile web apps.

briantakita · on Oct 20, 2015

I like riot.js; a react-like library weighing in ~3.5 kb min+gzip.

http://riotjs.com/

Browserify gives you modules. This technology can be used to structure the code & package only the bare essential functionality.

http://browserify.org/

notanintern · on Oct 20, 2015

Riot looks a whole lot like Polymer.

slackson · on Oct 21, 2015

They compare it to polymer in the docs - much smaller, for one.

emsy · on Oct 20, 2015

I don't say Mithril is bad but code size is no indicator for performance. Counterexample: The minified Box2D code is ~760kB large and impressively performant.

pygy_ · on Oct 20, 2015

It is an indicator of load time. Most users bounce off pages that take longer than 3 secs to load.

Mithril isn't the fastest of the virtual DOM libraries out there, but it is usually good enough, even on mobile.

magicalist · on Oct 20, 2015

Usually latency due to dependent requests are your killer on mobile. Even Edge throughput wasn't that bad once it finally got going.

lhorie · on Oct 20, 2015

Fixed :)