On: Why Fogbugz lost to Jira

[eikenberry]

> This meant they couldn't use all of the ecosystem and amazing tooling around Java [...]

Does anyone else get the same confused feeling whenever they read things like this? Every experience I've had with the Java/JVM ecosystem has been anything but amazing to the point where I now avoid it like the plague. I can't believe I'm that much different than everyone else, but I see this often enough that it makes me wonder.

[mindcrime → eikenberry]

Every experience I've had with the Java/JVM ecosystem has been anything but amazing to the point where I now avoid it like the plague.

Nope, just the opposite here. The JVM ecosystem is hands-down my preferred environment for building / deploying pretty much anything.

"Different strokes for different folks" and all that...

[ZeroBugBounce → eikenberry]

Well, I can see it compared to writing and maintaining your own language + all associated tools.

I feel like Java is a "choose your own adventure" type thing. You can opt out of a lot of the bad, in my limited experience.

[vacri → eikenberry]

In the context of the article, java is not being compared against the pool of all available languages, but specifically against the in-house language Wasabi.