On: Feathers are one of evolution's cleverest inventio...

[throwway120385]

It's hard to explain an animistic force of nature to another human without using words that imply agency. It feels like our language and our ways of thinking are hard-wired to see everything through that lens because we have agency. It's like a fish trying to imagine what it's like to be outside of water.

[Yeul → throwway120385]

Didn't Darwin write a book that did just that?

[Qwertious → Yeul]

Yes, but reciting the entire book mid-conversation isn't a realistic option.

[48864w6ui → throwway120385]

Bruce Lee's injunction "be like water" probably means don't overcomplicate with agency and opposed consciousnesses, just evolve the lagrangian (towards victory).

(Speak not of the relevant XKCD)

[jononomo → throwway120385]

So you believe in a "force" that creates life?

[oasisaimlessly → jononomo]

Pastor says that the four fundamental forces are necessary and sufficient to create life.