You’re asking about how to change a feeling of insecurity to security. My answer is this: give yourself a sense that you have an abundance of options.
The feeling of insecurity may stem from a fear of being left without options. So now, not later, interview at a variety of places.
Prepare well for those interviews, and know that if you make it to even 1 place in 10 that you interview (or 20 - whatever it might be), then you have options in case something happens.
You don’t need to actually take any of the jobs. Just create the sense of an abundance of options.
Dude what's with the toxicity? Who says he's not helping? Also, babies sleep sometimes... Lay it off with the snarky / toxic comments - totally off topic to the submission.
Hey HN community! I'm Yuval, the founder of WorkPuppy - a tool that helps SaaS companies ask users for their work emails (once they have a good reason to give it to us).
At my previous startup, Simpo, I asked my team to outright block registrations with personal email addresses, fearing that those users were just "not serious."
It was a mistake.
Sometimes users sign up with a personal or secondary email address because they want to check a product out before giving away their important contact info.
Rather than preventing personal email registrations, I now believe that as B2B SaaS founders, we should absolutely allow users to "kick the tires" of a product (with whatever info they want to give us), and then tactfully ask for their info when they've seen value in the product and want to stay in touch.
There's an interactive demo on the main site (courtesy of the good folks at Arcade), so you can play with it, and I'd be delighted to talk to anyone individually who's interested in having a conversation.
Can't wait to hear what you all think and to chat – I love this place :)
If I saw this message from a service, I'd start to question whether or not I trust that service. In short: it's obnoxious.
Most of us spend our browsing days dealing with various intrusive demands: GDPR stuff, anti-adblock screens, popovers demanding your email address, apps and widgets begging you for positive reviews, etc. I'm beyond tired of sites and services that behave like this. Any service that's scrutinizing what kind of email I use, and then bothering me about it, is an immediately bad first impression, and makes me wonder what other grubby stuff it's doing behind the scenes. (And the tone—"hey there! I noticed..."—is something I associate with sites that whine about adblocking. It's not tactful so much as grating.)
Thanks for the reply! Do you mind addressing this part? "For longer term, it's not for me." - totally legitimate – I'm just curious why. Feel free to be very honest / harsh :) Honest feedback > me feeling good about this
If I need a disposable email address I need it now. In that moment I am not looking for a solution to manage my trials.
Also I am on the other card in this game. I am thinking about building an api to flag the disposable emails. The solutions out there are not convenient enough. Also in the paid solutions many slip through.
That’s actually super useful. Do you want to chat about this (the other side as you call it). There are open source lists of lacklisted domains and I’m curious why current solutions don’t quite do the trick. If you’re open to chatting please email me at ykarmi (at) gmail
Hi, I'm Yuval, the founder of 1Trial - a service that lets you try out SaaS apps giving away your email.
You can think about it like a smarter disposable email service that also generates a password for you (and with a better UI).
The cool thing is that unlike disposable email services, it also saves the login info for you for later use.
I made it as a fun side project to scratch my own itch - I like checking out new products, and I was ticked off that to even begin to try something out, you need to register for an account.
The problem I had with disposable email services was that you lost access to your account, and you couldn't keep track of all the different services you signed up for (without polluting your password manager).
Happy to answer questions, and looking forward to engaging with the HN community - I love this place!
Why would one use disposable email adresses for SaaS trials?
I have a second emailaddress for this purpose. The only thing I can think of is people looking to create multiple accounts at the same SaaS. So basically a form of abuse.
That's fair -- one simple answer is privacy: each service you sign up for gets its own email address, but they're all tied to your 1trial account behind the scenes (if you choose to create one - it's optional), so you can still keep track of it.
I bet that the second email address you have can easily be tied to your identity. Same reason Apple Private Relay is useful.
Before I see value in a product, I may not want to give them my actual email address because I may just end up using it once.
I suppose it could be abused, but that's certainly not the intent.
Sorry if it comes out as harsh, but there's nearly 100% chance of this getting abused and then blacklisted by anti-abuse vendors, which will in turn render it 100% useless. That's the path all these disposable services took, including things like Private Relay, Firefox something, etc. Can't have nice things
lol, it does come off as a little harsh, but I do think it's reasonable to expect the main domain to get blacklisted at some point. Assuming there's some business model to figured out for this, alternative domains could always be added...
For now I was just curious to put it out there and see how people respond / if it even gets used at all.
it got at least "detected" and provided as an API for people who query these things, and it does get filtered out as a kind of data center/low reputation IP class. But as with anything of this type, it's up to the client what to do with it. Most disposable infrastructure is not trustworthy for the exact reason that they don't associate an individual with a high-cost profile, i.e. at least a credible/high rep email, or an SMS-authed phone number, and so on.
Of course there's always the argument that, if your revenue relies on defending against free-trial abuse, then maybe your product is not fit for a freemium model in the first place.
In April of 2021, we started shutting down my startup, Simpo.
While we eventually sold the assets and found a soft landing for some of our employees, I have no interest in framing this as a success story for the sake of optics. Instead, I'd like to talk about the many mistakes that I've made.
