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What a truly devastating outcome. Amazon has no idea how to run healthcare, and they will apply their "squeeze the customer, squeeze the provider" ethos to it. I'm so sorry for all the employees and patients at one medical.


Seattle is doing tons of stuff. They recently upzoned a huge amount of the city, approved ranked choice voting, approved social housing, expanded rail, fixed a major bridge failure before it failed, and plenty more.

Crime rates are down, the city has grown astronomically, etc.


I had a feeling your claim about crime rate was untrue so I googled it. It turned out to be wildly untrue. Crime rates are way up.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/seattl...

It's a "soft on crime" blue city. Crime doesn't go down.


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/is-seattle-dy...

Look at these graphs. Crime has consistently fallen.

The article you linked is discussing a recent uptick after a stable period of low crime. They've cherry picked the statistics to not show the huge drop in crime over the past 40 years.

Yes, crime is down in Seattle.



I have. I've lived here for nearly 40 years. I've been active in politics here and I've experience with both the data and the anecdotes.

Seattle has less crime then it did 40, 30, and 20 years ago. The past three years were exceptional and the report does indicate increased rates of violent crime.

But we had a global pandemic, a contentious election, a spotlight on police brutality, etc.

I guess you can make the call, whether you think that's a trend or an anomaly, but when I look at the data I see us having a crime rate half of what it used to be, with an uptick in the most unusual years in a generation.


What do you think that Seattle is doing right to combat crime?


They still have cops, courts, and jails in Seattle.


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They supplied data from the state showing the longer trend line. Scroll up a few comments.

Both posters are correct, and supplied data.

Crime rates are half what they used to be, that's true. Crime rates have also gone up very recently, that's also true.

No need to be so hostile.


Read this report by a group strongly incentivized to and rewarded by a creation of the perception that crime is high, about how high you should perceive crime to be.


Where I'm from we call it a "primary source".


When you learned how to use primary sources did they teach you to take them at face value without any consideration of the purpose, goals, constraints, and motivations of the people who created them?


I'm curious what other source you would even reference in this situation? Also do you really think the police intentionally misreport numbers that make themselves look bad?


I doubt there's a single trustworthy authoritative source that presents a complete picture. I'm not saying completely ignore or dismiss what the police say, but consider it in its context as one piece of information, published by an organization with its own needs and biases, rather than the single defining instance.

Police definitely lie a lot, and invest significant resources in outreach and PR, which we would straightforwardly call propaganda if someone else was doing it. The motivations are probably more complex than just what makes them look bad. And the mechanisms are probably more sophisticated than simply publishing completely false data in a report.

> Also do you really think the police intentionally misreport numbers that make themselves look bad?

But basically yes I do.


Social housing is a horrible idea and it only passed because voter turnout is so low. Seattle is doing a lot of nothing and anyone living here can tell you that.


Interesting. It seems like the mRNA itself breaks down in most cases like expected, but sometimes the particles/packages that contain the mRNA don't ever get opened, meaning the mRNA is never processed or exposed to the body.


I've lived here almost 40 years. In the past 15 years homelessness has risen by 50% but so has population. Rent has doubled, but crime is falling.

In fact, we're seeing record low property and violent crime rates. The last couple years have seen some uptick from the record lows of the 2010s, but Seattle is much safer than it was at basically any time in it's past.

The statistics just don't back up your story.


I think that “record low of the 2010s” is the main driver of the perception that Seattle is declining. Many of us moved to Seattle in that era and the 2020s are dramatically worse than the 2010s.


I would assume that anywhere you work, the opportunity for discrimination exists independent of who is a manager.


Just not caste discrimination. No one who isn't from India or Bangladesh (and partially, Pakistan), has a slightest idea what a caste is and which of them are "better".


My point is that people other than management influence your career. From interviews to mentorship to peer feedback there's lots of places where discrimination can creep in.


We Russians face the same problem (except all us are a "bad" caste). Solution is to try hard to work in environment with no other Russians or Russian-speakers.


These problems don't go away if you ignore them. And your solution of not "importing different cultures" sure sounds like you want an ethnostate...


I've lived in Seattle for almost 40 years. The homeless issue is not really unique to our city, and there's a hugely complex systemic set of issues causing it. (Not least of which is the incredibly high median income driving up home prices, due in part to tech immigration).

The city council has been trying to fix the issue, but had been stalled by the mayor, stalled by other cities in the region, and stalled in how they can build systemic fixes.


Eastside also buses homeless folks out (or at least used to). They very much care about the facade of cleanliness on the Eastside but not about people nearly as much.

And yeah, agree with you and the parent poster - the issue isn't unique to Seattle, local areas aren't doing enough, and housing has not met demand.


They don’t bus anymore. They just enforce laws really strict so Seattle looks appealing (where laws are more loosely enforced), and then metro won’t stop you from boarding if you can’t pay the fare.


The Eastside just externalizes its homelessness to Seattle by way of King County jail


If only. KC judges and prosecutors are loathe to put people in jail these days. They were even talking about releasing that guy who bashed in the head of an Amazon worker in beltown.


Doesn't matter - if they get bussed there and released, they're now in Seattle and no longer Redmond and Bellevue's problem.


In Seattle you can throw up a tent and you might have to remove it a few weeks later. In Bellevue, you lay down on a bench and swat is out in 5 minutes (even if you won’t go to jail, the police will harass you enough that you’ll leave). Bellevue makes it annoying to do illegal things, Seattle makes it convenient, so of course they are going to head to Seattle, it’s simply the path of least resistance.


It is illegal to ban camping unless free housing is available: https://mrsc.org/stay-informed/mrsc-insight/october-2022/new... It's Bellevue that is violating the law by enforcing an unconstitutional ordinance, rather than the people sleeping on benches.


So basically, the Bellevue homelessness policy is Not In My Back Yard.


It’s basically enforce laws aggressively, and make the problem go to the more permissive city. It wouldn’t work if Seattle police started enforcing laws, Bellevue would be screwed at that point.


Housing has gotten more expensive and there's been a huge wave of immigration to the region. I've lived here 35 years, the resistance from single family homeowners on any push to improve is staggering.


Workers, maybe it's time we started collectively pushing back?

I don't care if it's unions, or work stoppages, or guilds, or industrial action, or what.

But they've been squeezing workers too hard.


I question if the ruling class has broken the system enough that this doesn't work...

Old days: People stop working. Company stops making money. (A|B) Company hires pinkertons to kill off the opposition | Company concedes and gives better working conditions.

Today?: People stop working. Companies beg government to give them money because they're too big to fail. Individuals lose their livelihood/homes/next meal long before company has a deep financial impact.


Today: people automate out many low level processes and offshore the rest to India / Mexico City / PI


I think what’s needed are more along the lines of worker protections on an government level. It should be significantly more difficult to drop 10% of your staff because of market performance, or there should be enforced consequences which are expensive. Several months severance, executive pay clawbacks, stock and options payouts, those sorts of things.


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