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Businesses might want to be settled in the currency of their home country for ease of accounting/taxes and not be subjected to high volatility


> and not be subjected to high volatility

So they choose bitcoin?


> PayPal hopes its service can change that, as by settling the transaction in fiat currency, merchants will not take on the volatility risk/upside.

The whole point is that PayPal shields the business from the volatility risk. Buyer buys in Bitcoin, seller receives local fiat currency.


Ah, I read that as the opposite way around - wanting to avoid their own currency because of volatility. My bad.


Those companies only want to offer BTC as a payment option but don't want to hold crypto themselves. So they didn't really choose BTC to start with. Which makes sense since most companies need to pay their costs in fiat money.


It's the same thing as a US company wanting to sell to Europe but not wanting Euros, because they pay their costs in USD.

I think the point here is probably that Paypal is noticing that an increasing amount of consumers have crypto and would like to pay with them, so they offer this possibility.

Bitcoin is just another currency, and indeed most businesses don't want to hold them because they need to hold their local fiat. That doesn't mean consumers don't want to use Bitcoin tho.


This basically kills BitPay who recently made all transactions (of any value) in crypto require KYC registration.


What PayPal is offering is not even close to what BitPay is doing. On PayPal you will only be able to use cryptocurrency that you bought from PayPal, you cannot transfer cryptocurrency in or out of your account. All you can do is buy cryptocurrency from PayPal and then sell it back to them at a later time.


I see, wow, then this sucks


It killed itself. I stopped using several services because they want me to send fucking passport info to make a $10 transaction, so unsafe.


I never used bitpay but I don't think it's their fault to have to request passport verification. As a money transmitter they are required to answer to KYC rules, which includes passport or other docs verification to ensure you are who you are.

If you are wondering why Paypal never asked for your passport, it's probably because you eventually linked Paypal to another KYC-compatible entity, such as your bank (by linking your bank, sending money with your credit card, etc).

I assume in the case of bitpay you would only link your btc wallet which in itself doesn't offer KYC verifications.


Seems untrue to me.

Lots of other services continue to function with no such requirements. Bitpay only did it recently after many years of business and there was no regulatory change

I also don't understand how it is logically any different from the merchant accepting btc themselves and choosing to do the conversion themselves

There are many cases where businesses go beyond the legal requirements for whatever reason. Coinbase for example has explained that they make shady backdoor deals with regulators.


It's not like they have a choice. KYC is a standard requirements when dealing with money transfers.


Not for such small transactions


Are there any alternatives to bitpay?


* Bitcoin merchant payments * Fiat conversion options

https://www.coinpayments.net/


BitPay killed themselves when their invoicing UI stopped working over Tor


Here in Ireland, i am living in a rural location half hour drive from small city (70k people) and have 1000/100mbit fiber to home.

Used to be fairly bad "up to" 3mbit wifi wireless, then 70mbit "4g" wireless, with serious contention in evenings and issues everytime wind or rain occurred (which is every day in west of ireland!)

The government has a plan to connecting everyone to fiber, this forced the local at&t like company (eir/eircon) to try connect as many people as they could, which they done with surprising speed


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