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The next time I write my boilerplate bio, I'm totally going to use that line.

Just kidding. (Can people on HN read sarcasm? I never know.)


I don't think being an asshole is inherent to either men or women. Similarly, both men and women are capable of being kind.

You might want to try it some time--it's not so bad!


Thanks for the links. I agree, privilege might be a better term.


What about "technical incompetence projection"? They seem to be scared they're not good enough, so they try to make other people feel like they're not good enough instead.

Just having privilege doesn't make people around you feel as bad as wielding that privilege offensively.


Unfortunately people often choose careers when they still care what their peers think.


What my peers think of me is none of my business. It never was. If the opinion of one's peers is a factor to someone making such an important decision (choosing a career) then I have little sympathy.


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This is a really inspiring attitude. I know what you're talking about--I often feel this way myself.

The difference is that while this is inspiring, having people put you down or call you stupid isn't.


Hmm, maybe. I guess I meant more that bad behavior is more acceptable in tech because people are "socially awkward"--when, really, it doesn't matter WHY people are exclusive because the effects don't change.


Anyone who is trying to one-up someone else is exhibiting social intelligence. The "socially awkward" excuse is completely illogical. Nerds who act that way are acting just like all the jocks we disparage. Just because they are using lines of code and obscure knowledge instead of pushups or interceptions caught doesn't mean they aren't doing exactly the same thing.

I think that bad behavior is more acceptable in tech because people think being abnormal and living in a "meritocracy" gives them a right to treat other people, especially normal people or anyone they feel superior to, badly. It leads to lots of trying to prove you aren't a "normal" person or somehow inferior so the people around you won't treat you badly. It is a miserable way to live.

The people who are actually weird and different are treated badly by the so-called "socially awkward" nerds. I agree with you: it is an excuse for why they shouldn't be expected to know better. There is no such thing, though. I'm dyslexic and I still had to learn to read and I'm still judged on my spelling. Even if something is harder for someone, that just means they need to work harder at it or find another way to get to the same end goal.

The people I have known who are actually on the autism spectrum, rather than just using it as an excuse, all have.


Establishing a pecking-order is different from having the tact to know when something is appropriate or even harmful. So, yes, knowing how to one-up someone is a part of social intelligence, but I submit that knowing what is appropriate to say to be as welcoming as possible requires more sophisticated social intelligence. Hence, I don't see "socially awkward" as illogical.


I'll definitely check that out, thanks!


This post isn't really meant to be about getting more women into tech. It's about getting more of EVERYONE into tech.

And that jobs page is almost hilariously stereotypical.


So people who look like the ones on that jobs page should not enter tech? I really don't understand your point.

I also don't understand the entitlement aspect. What I experienced is that skilled people get respect. Nobody gets respect for having started programming at age 6. But most of them probably became good programmers, so they get respect.

I can't imagine really good people looking down on others. If you enjoy programming (as an example), why wouldn't you want to spread the joy.

Why don't you just avoid the nasty people. And, to be honest, perhaps see a shrink about your self-consciousness (sorry, but there seems to be an issue and you are shifting the blame instead of confronting yourself).


This sums my points up really, really nicely. Thanks!


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