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Btw, if you are interested in distributed tracing, including the W3C and opentelemetry, we blog a weekly roundup about it here: https://lightstep.com/blog/category/distributed-tracing/


Actually, OpenTelemetry is compatible with OpenTracing, so the boom is still relevant. The distributed tracing APIs are very similar, but OpenTelemtry also includes metrics.


Thank you.


Thanks for rooting! I’m sorry it looks confusing. It took several iterations for the humans to converge on a single project, and achieve something like consensus about what we wanted. But it feels like we are there - there’s ~100 working on it now, and I don’t see any remaining blockers.

From the inside, it’s felt like steadily rolling up a larger and larger katamari ball, if you remember that game.


I think it’s incredibly important that a top priority be to put a very clear banner on the OpenCensus and OpenTracing pages explaining that they are becoming OpenTelemetry.


That’s really reassuring to hear! Keep up the hard work, and I’ll keep an eye out for something in March or so.

Until then, where is the best place to look for updates?


Isobel is writing weekly summaries as "OTel Me More" with the latest here: https://lightstep.com/blog/otel-me-more-opentelemetry-projec...


Yeah, it’s all getting stitched together. I would expect v1.0 of OpenTelemetry coming in March, with W3C Trace-Context headers as the default format for context propagation.


This is not true. I don’t like having my health care tied to my job - they are orthogonal concerns. But in the US, your employer does not have access to your healthcare records.


If it's a "self-insured" plan[1], your employer potentially has access to all insurance claims because they are the insurer. That's not the same as access to complete healthcare records but it's pretty telling information.

[1] https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/self-insured-plan/


> If it's a "self-insured" plan[1], your employer potentially has access to all insurance claims because they are the insurer. That's not the same as access to complete healthcare records but it's pretty telling information.

No, companies almost never manage the claims themselves. They underwrite the plans, but managing claims is cost-prohibitive, as it's outside the core competency of most large companies.


Sure but they can get access to the claims data from whomever is managing it as they're paying for them.


Hence Tim Armstrong's comments about AOL spending a couple million dollars on "distressed babies" being the reason 401(k) benefits were cut.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/whose-distressed...


They definitely do if they’re self insured. That doesn’t mean your boss can just pull it up willy-nilly, but I promise someone in HR can. I’ve sat in on conversations at my company where we’ve been pitched on claims analysis tools for our own HR department to use.


> They definitely do if they’re self insured.

Self-insured doesn't mean they manage claims themselves. For most companies, managing claims would be cost-prohibitive and an absurdly wasteful use of resources.


Most companies use a Third Party Administrator (TPA) for the actual back office claims management. That doesn’t mean people in HR and Finance don’t have visibility into claims data.


> Most companies use a Third Party Administrator (TPA) for the actual back office claims management.

Yes

> That doesn’t mean people in HR and Finance don’t have visibility into claims data.

I mean, this is technically a true statement - "A does not necessarily imply not-B" - but kind of irrelevant, because as it turns out, HR and finance generally do not have visibility into individual-level claims data (as opposed to aggregate data, which is necessary for underwriting).


>, HR and finance generally do not have visibility into individual-level claims data

I'm not debating with you but somehow, Tim Armstrong (then CEO of AOL) found out about healthcare claims for one of his employees.[1] The story isn't clear on whether the granularity of the claims data would reveal to Tim who the particular employee was. (Even if Tim didn't know the exact employee, I'm sure he could ask a few questions and/or look at employees' sick day records to figure out which employee it was. If the company pays $1 million in a health claim, that's not necessarily going to stay a secret.)

[1] https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/02/tim-armstrong-blame...


I mean key word “generally”?

I’m not suggesting that there’s a team of employees watching you every time you pick up a prescription, but of course they could access an individual claim if there was a legitimate reason to. Not sure why it’s so unbelievable to think that an insurer would be legally barred from doing so if they are literally taking on the risk themselves, even if it is to audit the TPA to make sure they aren’t stealing from them.

If you are an extremely ill employee and you’re using a lot of healthcare your employer will know without you needing to inform them.


Remember when Tim Armstrong, CEO of AOL, blamed an employee's new baby's health issues on benefit cuts [1]? He may not have had "full access", but he basically blamed an employee's family health issues, publicly, as the reason for employee benefit cuts.

[1] https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/02/tim-armstrong-blame...


Your sentence confuses me. Did he blame the cuts on the baby? Or the baby's issues on the cuts?


It’s in the linked article. The CEO (after a great financial quarter) announced benefits cuts, blaming costs and using as examples two “distressed babies” that cost the company $1M each. Armstrong was making $12M, by the way, so in other words, 12 Distressed Babies per year in compensation.


They do if the plan is self funded. If it’s not, they still get anonymized usage reports from the carrier that list all the claims with basic demographic info like gender, age range and whether it was the employee, child or spouse who the claim was for. You probably wouldn’t know if your company’s plan is self funded or not.


They definitely have access to at least aggregate data, see this kinda thing: https://collectivehealth.com/solutions/actionable-insights/


Imho, the interest is less about convenience, and more about reducing employment (fedex/amazon’s interest), combined with alphabet doing its reflexive moonshot thing. There isn’t a huge consumer demand for drones; like google glass, I expect that they will be taken aback at how negative the reaction is.


I suspect that fb is dialing back their ambitions with libra, to something that is more like a regular money transfer service. PayPal and other partners would naturally be less interested in that; it’s just more competition.


I posted this article because I found precise mobile tracking such as this to be a genuine privacy violation. IMHO, this is much more invasive that passively tracking web activity.


Hi Mycoliza! One of the authors of OpenTelemetry here. It would be great to see an OpenTelemetry implementation in Rust. If you're interested in bootstrapping a group to work on that, please let me know!


We absolutely want to integrate with OpenTelemetry, and I'd love to work with the OpenTelemetry community on that. We have an issue (https://github.com/tokio-rs/tracing/issues/89) tracking integration with distributed tracing systems --- it would be great to get input from OpenTelemetry folks if any of y'all are interested!


Cool beans!


The article only mentions Android. Does anyone know what the process is for iPhones at the border?


My guess is they force you to hand over your pin code/unlock your phone and extract it manually.


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