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What a ridiculous comment. $10 per month is like three orders of magnitude less than a developer. Clearly they could charge a lot more


There are open source versions that use local compute and gpu.

The price needs to get cheaper, not more expensive.

Software is not about charging a percent of value derived. It’s based on minimal cost and providing more capability.

Should IDEs cost $1000 because they save so much time?


As long as cost of Nvidia hardware the majority of the cost of AI, the cost of AI is entirely dependent on how much money Nvidia needs to extract to meet stock expectations.

Everything else is a tiny factor when it comes to compute


Whoa I did not hear about this. What happened?


> Apple pulls its ads from X after Musk's antisemitic posts

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38310673


This may be a naive question, but all the metrics seem to be for inference. Should we expect similar gains on training?


Yes. Training would especially benefit from the increased memory size.


Interesting thanks. I wonder why they aren’t marketing that more on this page that seems important


I’m confused by the pricing. Gpt-4 turbo appears to be better in every way, but is 3x cheaper?!


The same as true of GPT-3.5-turbo compared to the GPT-3 models which preceded it.

They want everyone on GPT-4-turbo. It may also be a smaller (or otherwise more efficient) but more heavily trained model that is cheaper to do inference on.


This is seriously the laziest type of analysis there is. It’s like a freshman who memorizes the formulas for a test and attempts to pattern match existing concepts rather than understanding fundamentals. In this case you’re pattern matching the most unimportant features of the existing trend. If you don’t understand the difference between AI and crypto I don’t know what to tell you


Oh you wanted analysis, that's too doors down, right next to entitlement.


Ha you sound exactly like my own consciousness. There are few things in life I feel as resolute about than this one. Dynamic types were a mistake. Let’s learn and move on. I often joke that if null pointer references were the billion dollar mistake (or whatever it’s called), dynamic typing was the 100 billion dollar mistake. And we’re still living with it but thank god for typescript etc for saving us finally


Thanks. Yeah, I agree.


I guess what I don’t understand about this is sum types represent a state that is so ubiquitous in our lives that it’s hard for me to go a day without seeing one. It’s simply the state of something either is this or that or that. It would be like a language without records. It’s missing a part of reality that shows up all the time


Love this. Not only is it my favorite feature of swift, but I often say swift enums are my favorite feature of any programming language. They are just so elegant and powerful


Does this work similarly to the Toyota announcement a few days ago? I think progress in this space is going to stun people over the next two years


Indeed. People are way underestimating how quickly this change is coming


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