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congrats ben and matt!


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WTF is a COB?


slick!


Awesome post!



These fuckers do this to us every year as well. Seasonal business also. They seriously asked us to fax them our URL. Assholes.


oh yeah that's a sure thing. no one has ever gotten fucked owning B grade multifamily housing. slam dunk.


There are no sure things in investing. If you have some specific quibble with my scenario that you can back up with data or experience, please post it.


The basic problem I see with this scenario is the tail risk.

You're probably going to be just fine. However there is a non-zero (and impossible to calculate) risk that you're going to lose the entire income stream.

Equities / ETFs allow much greater diversification.

The bit which bugs me though is why are you spending 200k a year. Countless studies show that greater income is not linked to happiness above a fairly low level. I refuse to believe the USA is so expensive that this level is $200k per annum. Reductions in living expenses are far easier to guarantee than increased returns.


Where's the risk of losing the entire income stream? Sure, it can burn down, but that's what insurance is for.

Or are we talking about the possibility that your occupancy may fall or rents may fall or maintenance costs may rise to the point where it's no longer profitable? That makes sense.


> The basic problem I see with this scenario is the tail risk.

you don't think that there's a similar risk in the market? sure, you pick how much risk you take when you invest, but i'd say that you're doing the same when investing in this type of real estate -- making a choice to exchange some safety for higher returns.

> The bit which bugs me though is why are you spending 200k a year.

i don't believe this was point of the article.


It's not like real estate and stocks are your only options.


agreed, but pretty much every investment is about deciding on that tradeoff between risk and return


There are good and bad investments of everything. What matters is results. If the housing is a good deal and won't fail, then logically it is a smart move.

I don't think you can decide on a hypothetical without investigating. At the very least, this article has given you another point of view of a problem most of us try to solve every single day.


looks solid!


this thread of comments is laughably naive.


Do you mind elaborating? You know something I don't, obviously.


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