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I was asking myself: Why? Isn't this in bad taste? Isn't this continuing a meme long after it has turned from funny to sad?

I am sure the answer is just because we can, just for fun, to make it more accessible. But I kind of wish there was an answer to that question in the README or on the site.


Its a fascinating bare metal OS written by one man complete with development tools. If anything its a testament to his brilliance.


Hey look, another asshole (on HN) who thinks Terry & his both unfortunate & unavoidable life circumstances were just a sad, funny, meme.

Here’s an old comment from Terry I wish he could say to you for your tone & feelings towards him.

>>”STFU. When you can work bigger miracles than I, you can open your mouth.”


I think Terry would be happy that people want to tinker with what he built even after his death. I mean, he explicitly built it as a sort of throw-back to the early home computer days.


well... it's not quite just a meme. I've always found dude more inspirational than funny


Yep, most people focused on his illness and his nsfw speak and postings; I always just focused on the technical. The guy was a tech genius.


>Isn't this in bad taste? Isn't this continuing a meme long after it has turned from funny to sad?

The OS contains genius ideas, it's not called "TempleOS" it is public domain, the devel workflow is the same..i think it keeps one of Terry's good sides alive...i would be honored.


hand-held laser speed measuring


Wayland will stop sucking when distros and Wayland developers stop dismissing these concerns by comparing them to people who didn't want to adopt systemd.

The worst part of this mindset is pointing to Xwayland. In my experience, Xwayland is more of a fig leaf than a real solution. Applications that need wayland-specific code and can't just use a newer version of GTK or SDL are usually apps that don't work with Xwayland anyway.

The second worst is pointing to Wayland-only apps as a replacement, when the previous apps were cross-platform, and not just X11 cross-platform, but Windows/Mac+Quartz/Linux+X11 cross-platform.

Wayland will stop sucking for people like you when distros and Wayland developers acknowledge that people like you have a point and real concerns, and that you are driven by something else than nostalgia and inertia. Until then, this discussion will always end with "you don't understand that Wayland is a much cleaner design than X11" and nothing will fundamentally change.


It's really hard to figure out how the system differs from PeopleMover. Is this new tech, or just a new vendor for basically the same design they have at Disney? Wait, is this a MagLev peoplemover?


Gnome is the worst of the wayland compositors in terms of spec compliance. KDE and sway are much better in this regard. What good is having protocol specifications when the reference implementation does not implement it, and Gnome, the biggest Wayland desktop, does its own thing anyway?

I am still waiting for Gnome to implement server-side decorations and for proper drag and drop between windows.


> I am still waiting for Gnome to implement server-side decorations [...]

This decision of the Gnome folks really means a very bad fragmentation of the Wayland infrastructure


> Gnome is the worst of the wayland compositors in terms of spec compliance. KDE and sway are much better in this regard. What good is having protocol specifications when the reference implementation does not implement it, and Gnome, the biggest Wayland desktop, does its own thing anyway?

The point of extensions being extension and not being a part of core protocol is being optional, you know. On the other hand, compliant clients have to run and behave correctly without them being present.

> I am still waiting for Gnome to implement server-side decorations

Sorry little wizard, you are going to wait for a while. Don't hold your breath meanwhile :/

That being said, it is not going to be implemented anytime soon. Intentionally. For a good reasons.


There is a difference between free software and open source, and this may be the former, but is not the latter


Can you elaborate? The source for the software under discussion is published openly, with an Apache 2.0 license; this is an OSI-approved license.


Open source is the "development model", free software is the license. I thought this was common knowledge.


This might be controversial, but I honestly think it's important to recognise and counteract his in content moderation. When people deliberately give bad info they should be banned, and posters in good standing who exercise insufficient caution and feed the trolls must be reprimanded.

If you allow people to troll a help forum or bug tracker with low-grade content, you will soon be overrun with low-quality information, and that will make the search function in your forum useless, leading to a cascade of more low-quality questions.

I know reprimanding people for answering badly phrased questions or clear trolling is not something many people want to do because they want to be beginner friendly, but harsh penalties for deliberate disinformation should be the norm. Punishing people for falling for this would at least starve the trolls of oxygen.


But if you want to move the heat away from a CPU, wouldn't you want to pump more electricity into the Peliter element to move heat away faster?


On a High-End Desktop Chip? YES! Intel made such a cooler recently[1]. But on mobile/low power devices it might be worthwhile to have them run a little warmer (within spec) but take the heat energy back via a peltier element. Would be interesting to see such an element directly on die feeding back into the chip directly, sort of an electric rebreather for a chip.

[1] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000...


I have tried to find the roots of this "pizza effect" myth, but all I could find is somebody making a point about mindfulness meditation and yoga, and I am not even sure how it holds up WRT yoga, because Indian yogis who do not-Western yoga are still a thing.

WRT pizza, it's clearly false. Pizza was a thing in Italy before World War II and it spread through Europe from Italy, not from the USA. You can trace the history of many pizzerias in Italy back far further than the "pizza effect" would have you believe, so you can easily de-bunk it by going to the web site of a pizza place in Napoli.


Agreed, it’s false. Pizza in Italy (and in the rest of Europe, for that matter) is very little like pizza in the US.

Amusingly, however, while it’s influence on the food itself is at the very least debatable, the influence of the US on how pizza is consumed is in fact very real: the fact that Italians nowadays drink beer with their pizza is something they learned from American GIs in WWII who brought the practice over from home.

Before that time, there was no overlap between Italians who drank beer (Northerners) and Italians who ate pizza (Southerners). Thanks the American soldiers Southerners learned to drink beer and Northerners learned about pizza.


People who discuss the pizza effect are well aware that it started in Italy. The interesting “effect” part is that the version that is popular now in Italy was heavily influenced by the development of pizza in, largely, New York, by Italian immigrants. It was re-imported back into Italy. It’s a cautionary tale for people who fret about cultural appropriation and a reminder that the idea of the “original” or “authentic“ version of something is often more complicated than we imagine.


I have trouble believing this, given that I have tasted pizza from both places and it is not alike.


One of the most popular if not the most popular versions of pizzas in Italy is the pizza margherita (and in fact a lot of pizzas are just margheritas with additional toppings).

Pizza margherita existed in the I̶X̶X̶ XIX century already in its modern form.


I’m not familiar with this century.


I wish we stopped using the Roman numerals. (On the other hand, they are good for coding interviews, and MMXXII looks pretty!)


fixed /facepalm


Thought so, but wasn’t sure. I was fond of the pizza effect story, and am holding on to the hope that it’s at least partly true. But you supply a powerful counter-fact.


Yeah, this is the version that is not true


No, it's not about the "optimal way", it's about the oft-cited the factoid "90% of people are haptic learners, 30% are visual learners, 15% are auditory learners, 25% are text-based learners". Somebody did an experiment and found out 90% of subjects remembered something later when they had to learn to do it, but only 25% remembered when they had to read it. (All numbers made up, does not matter in the context of this comment)

Of course, this completely misrepresents the experiment! After learning to do something, you are 90% likely to retain it for a certain duration, after you read about it, you are only 25% likely to retain it, so in aggregate you only retain 25% of what you read.

The idea was never to find people who are "visual learning type" or the "non-learning-by-doing type".

That's what became of this idea in education through the game of telephone that mangles experimental results on their way from developmental psychology and cognitive science into education departments, and then into future high school teachers during undergrad lectures. Even my own high school teachers in Germany talked about learning types as if there was such a thing.


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