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Who cares?


Either way their free Scala plugin for IntelliJ is pretty sweet. Kotlin looks very similar, will be interesting to see how it develops.


What is the minimum python version required to run this?


Even more awesome would be to add metrics for inbound and outbound network packets per second! ;)


I've made it easier to start adding more metrics... could you pop this one in a github issue? I'll be able to actually remember to do it :)


"Did IBM fork Java when Oracle bought Sun? If so why isn't Oracle going after IBM"

IBM has had their own JDK implementation for more than 15 years. April 6th 1997 is about as close a date as I can find: http://www.os2ezine.com/v2n7/javarev.htm (that's version 1.0.2, so it's probably even earlier).

IBM have a license and produced a fully compatible implementation. Before Oracle bought BEA (who bought JRockit) there was also another independent commercial JDK implementation in addition to the IBM and Sun/Oracle ones.


That is an unusually long namespace. It says more about the coding style of the programmer that wrote it than it does about Java.


After a while, most Java developers start thinking it's ok to build deep hierarchies of modules.


Complaining about java as a language for providing a namespace feature that's basically identical to every other language just shows a want to hate on Java.


It's OK to build hierarchies of modules. It's not OK to make them deeper than needed and violate YAGNI with sparse hierarchies prepared for situations that'll never arise. Not all programmers fall into this trap, but due to IDE support, Java developers are specially vulnerable because, for them, it costs nothing - programs do the job of keeping everything neatly over-organized.

I don't hate Java. In fact, along with Python and C, it's one of my favorite (and more used) languages. But I do realize it has a huge potential for being abused in horrible ways.


I really don't see why there is a need for everyone and their dog to respond to Yegge's rambling blog post. Is language [X] conservative or liberal is now littering the HN front page.


Personally I appreciated this article (and the ensuing discussion) as a good overview of the philosophies behind Haskell.


If I could have an IntelliJ-level IDE for Ruby or Python or JS I'd be very happy.

The company behind IntelliJ already makes IDEs for Ruby, Python and JS:

Python: Pycharm http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/

Ruby: RubyMine http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/

JS: Webstorm http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/


I was a rubymine customer for 1.0 and it's good but nothing like intellij is for java. Static typing just makes building good tools so much easier.


I've been very impressed by Scala. Play is also very productive. IntelliJ has an excellent (free) Scala plugin and I've read that support for Play is coming in the next version: http://blog.jetbrains.com/scala/2012/07/20/play-2-0-support/


I would hope so. Perhaps they should call those out to make it clearer?


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