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I understand exactly what you mean. A disconnected, distraction-free place to focus and think... the equivalent of a "wooden shed with nothing but books and a typewriter", except the isn't typewriter work; it's more difficult to fully "detach".

What *is* the software-world equivalent of a typewriter?


I recently got a reMarkable Paper Pro with the keyboard folio and that's about as typewriter-esque as I would voluntarily choose to get.

Can you jerry-rig something to code on it?

That's a very complicated question! You get root access, and they released the toolchain and kernel source less than a week ago, so I'm not sure what will be possible going forward. I don't recommend getting the keyboard folio based on future guesses as to what the software will support, but it's great for... Just. Typing.

A standard coding setup but with a very strict block list for time wasting websites.

You could make it buoyancy-neutral and have it float-melt its way back—heater pointed up.

I'd never considered the pressure under an ice cap... it would scale with depth, no?

So a water channel within the ice (going "up" from the sea below) would have a decreasing pressure gradient as it ascended?


I would imagine the water channel would re-freeze fairly rapidly, so you'd end up with a "bubble" of liquid water around the thing slowly melting itself down.

Point. Is ice sufficiently plastic to exert pressure with depth? I honestly don't know.

E.g. What would the pressure of a bubble of water under 1km of ice vs 15km of ice?


The ice clearly moves, as Europa's surface isn't just same as an airless, solid ball-of-rock's default: craters, but has all sorts of features that reshape the surface, so given enough time, it'll equilibrate. (What 'enough' means is left as an exercise to the reader). There are papers[1] that discuss the ice properties, but it's hard to get a specific answer out of them. There have to be tons of research papers out there about the design criteria for melt-drill probes like this, for Europa, Enceladus, and others.

[1]: https://websites.pmc.ucsc.edu/~fnimmo/website/draft5.pdf


There's no radiation in the subterranean oceans, which is what they are investigating.

(Radiation shielding is an exponential function; a few meters of water is, for most purposes, total shielding [0]. The major radiation source on Europa is solar particles trapped in Jupiter's magnet belts, which bombard Europa's airless surface. The ocean begins multiple tens of kilometers below that surface).

[0] https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/


Thanks a lot!

- "This particular example came from a 55 gallon drum of tape dispensers that the U.S. Army was about to dispose of as radioactive waste."

This is a common beach sand [0]. It illustrates something absurd, I can't quite put my finger on what, about the relation between human society and technology. No one knows anything about the physical or chemical properties of sand on the beach. No one asks; no one cares. There are no EPA surveys of beach radioactivity. No beach signs warning beachgoers "do not eat the sand", or, "this beach is known to the state of California to cause cancer". But you take one handful of the beach into a plastic box, and accidentally walk it past the wrong regulatory compliance officer, and suddenly the US Army is burying your one-handful-of-beach-sand in a 55-gallon drum packed in bentonite.

It's one lens for nature, and one lens for the anthropogenic.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monazite


Monazite isn't common. Well, it's somewhat common but not on beaches. Beach sand is mostly quartz.

Beach sand may or may not be radioactive, but California only requires Prop 65 warnings on things for sale.

The beach isn't for sale.

Sand that is sold in the state of California does come with the warning that it is a carcinogen because regular old silicon dioxide is a carcinogen: https://mcdn.martinmarietta.com/assets/safety-data-sheets/na...

With all things the dose makes the poison, so even if you are a beach bum you're ok but if you are an industrial worker exposed to concentrated amount of silica dust on a daily basis, you should really be informed that it is a carcinogen (among other things) and be equipped with PPE.


> Beach sand may or may not be radioactive, but California only requires Prop 65 warnings on things for sale.

They're not just on things for sale. They're also required at workspaces, businesses, rental housing. I've seen them on unpaid parking structures.

If the beach was operated by a private entity instead of by public agencies or just public access with no supervision, a warning might be needed.


I don't think Silicosis is cancer as much as it's just "shredding your lungs"

It's a horrifying disease and people in affected industries should always wear PPE and likely don't.


Silicosis causes cancer the same way a lot of things do: If you repeatedly damage cells over and over and over, that increases the likelihood that some of the DNA will be mis-copied, fail to be repaired, and survives the biological lottery to become a cancer cell.

I'm not a geologist; did I misunderstand the Wikipedia entry I linked? It says

- "Because of their high density, monazite minerals concentrate in alluvial sands when released by the weathering of pegmatites. These so-called placer deposits are often beach or fossil beach sands..."

And I found two specific examples of notably radioactive monazite beaches—an 800 km stretch of Brazil's coast [0], and 55 km stretch of India's coast [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guarapari#Radioactivity

[1] https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/No-major-birth-defects-fou...


Those locations, with their high concentrations ("high" being "greater than 0.01%-ish") of heavy metals, of which mazanite is but one of many, are the rare exception.

The IAEA report on Guarapari specifically says "it's weirdly high, brah":

>The exposure level due to monazite sand radiation in Areia Preta beach, Guarapari, is high. The activity concentration of 232Th in Areia Preta is higher than others beaches in world studied. The values of the absorbed dose rate in air and outdoor annual effective dose rate in Areia Preta beach are higher than the world averages due the content of 232Th. Areia Preta is also has higher background found in beaches in world.

https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/...


Depends on the beach. Brasil has more than others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdHHUGwFoJE


There are other radioactive types of sands. Black sands ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_sand ) can be quite active, and they can be found in many places.

Wherever the car break runoffs from the highways reach the beach, the chancer rates must be through the roof too

I wonder if the phenomenon you're describing is the subtle and often hidden complexity of science, and our inability as humans to recognise and handle that complexity appropriately.

In this case, we have the US Army's procedure for disposing of low-level radioactive waste. That process probably says something like "if a thing has been identified as more radioactive than THRESHOLD, then dispose of as radioactive waste." Could the process be expanded to cover cases where the radioactivity is naturally occurring? Probably, but who would then take on the liability if there were any? I'm not sure. What about a case like this, where a naturally occurring radioactive source has been transformed into some piece of equipment that nobody would reasonably expect to be radioactive. Does that need special handling, or not? If so, who is responsible -- the US Army? The manufacturer? The US EPA, even?

It all gets quite complicated, and as complexity increases the risk of a procedure not being applied consistently, or at all, rises quickly. To keep the collective human machine functional, we need to ignore the complexity, and have every radioactive thing be disposed of in the same way.

There are many instances of humans handling scientific complexity badly and coming to poor decisions as a result. A well-known one is declining nuclear fission power stations in favour of coal power stations and subsequently releasing more radioactivity into the environment than the nuclear power stations would ever have done. I'm sure there are hundreds more.


On the other side of this you have something like the Runit Dome, which is a nuclear test crater in the Pacific which they filed in with radioactive debris and covered in concrete. It is starting to leak from rising sea levels. But when people complain about this, they are told "oh, don't worry, there's actually far more radioactive material outside the dome" because it turns out they only managed to clean up about 1% of the contamination, and the rest of the immediate area is still covered in fallout.

I visited a friend in Elliot Lake once and we stopped at a plaque on the side of the highway to read. A geologist friend came along, and he recognized the formation of the rocks under our feet as uranium-bearing. I had brought my Geiger counter along, and sure enough, these were hot too.

As you mention: no warning signs, no caution tape. Being close enough to that in any “anthropoid” setting would require, at the very least, a dosimetry badge.

I can live within that cognitive dissonance, but it’s just an interesting observation.


In vast sections of Ontario, Ohio, Michigan, Quebec (and probably many other areas) anyone with a basement has to monitor for radon gas - it's just a normal part of the environment overall because of the geological makeup.

If you can keep a window or two open - it's not so bad - we use an smart bluetooth-connected monitor that I check daily - CO2 seems to be more of a problem than the radon.


Yes. Live in one of those areas and "radon mitigation systems" are common. There is a sealed lid that goes over your sump pump cover, and a fan constantly pulls air from it, which goes up a tube on the side of your house and empties near the roofline.

Similar in parts of the UK (where there's granite) - there's a map of radon-prone areas on the UK Government website.

* https://www.ukradon.org/information/ukmaps


Relatively common is the cities around Madrid (Spain) mountains, and then to the west and northwest due to the granite there. Specially because lots of the houses in the area were built with that local granite.

Well, what's the alternative? Walk all over the US of A, measuring radiation at every square foot? That's prohibitively expensive even today for a rather dubious benefit: most of the terrain is not (yet) noticeably radioactive, after all.

There’s no alternative, other than recognizing that these dichotomies exist.

A brown bear in the wild doesn’t have any warning signs or set off any alarms, but it sure would if it was in a human-occupied building. Context is key! :)


>> here are no EPA surveys of beach radioactivity. No beach signs warning beachgoers "do not eat the sand",

Perhaps there should be. The idea that the natural world is somehow safe has roots in mythology, that some creator has designed the world for us and so any "untouched" wilderness is unpolluted and free of invisible pollutions. Maybe there are beaches with dangerous levels of radiation. I am open to the concept that there exists natural places nevertheless radioactive enough to justify warnings. We certainly issue warnings for other unseen natural hazards.


A while ago now, the Oklo nuclear reactor ran - according to wikipedia [0] - for a few hundred thousand years albeit only with power levels averaging less than 100 kilowatts. It was discovered because there was a discrepancy in the amount of uranium expected from a mine and the amount they actually got.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reacto...


Now I am curious why 3M was using monazite specifically as a tape dispenser ballast.

So it is sand encased in resin. My initial thought was it is heavier(denser) than plain silica sand, And while it probably is, It feels weird that 3m specifically searched it out to use for that reason alone, I bet they had quite a bit of the stuff on hand for other products, and so might as well use the waste as a tape dispenser ballast.

A tangent on heavy rock ballast, I once saw a documentary on an offshore oil platform, and it was towed to the site, sunk and then filled with rocks to anchor it. the rocks used were specifically iron ore as that is significantly denser than most rocks.


Like spider man they hope a random office blob from sector 7G will get a papercut from the radioactive office supply, only for the radiation to transform him into... .. RED TAPE MAN! He swings from office building to office building shooting duct tape from his wrists, fighting tax cheats and completing tax returns along the way

I know what you mean! I found a random field like 20 miles from my house where the radioactivity was like 100x normal due to Thorium in the dirt. How many spots like that have a house built over them and no one knows? Here is my webpage with a video of the field visit. https://hunterwlong.com/mapping-radiation-with-a-raspberry-p...

They're doing a radiological survey of the waterfront in Alameda county because twentieth century humans accidentally depleted it of non-radioactive material, enriched it, in other words. They already identified a small area that's dangerously active.

>No one knows anything about the physical or chemical properties of sand on the beach. No one asks; no one cares.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22026436


I suspect there's selection effects in play: museum curators who don't aggressively make the case for more museum funding, don't end up curating the most well-funded museums.

The smaller-diameter versions of their solid-fuel missiles were recently shipped to Russia and will (US assesses) be used against Ukraine and Ukrainian civilians in the coming weeks.

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/39...

I'll keep to myself my thoughts on the Iranian ballistic missile program, because they're off topic for HN. I'm not going to be celebrating this achievement.


Is the reason these are coherent quantum states that the postulated ultralight axions don't strongly interact with anything except gravity, so they see very little environmental noise to decohere them? Would they also predict there's (much smaller) dark matter halos around ordinary planets and stars, and these also have quantized atom-like states?

yes, just heard about it on Physics Frontiers. Monsalve & Kaiser are talking about primordial black holes, and are offering a theory that if they were imbalanced in color charge, they could be surrounded by a particle cloud, in a big quantum state.

https://pca.st/episode/f0db6ab1-18ff-4201-a6b2-a30b780a266a


A star tracker is one of its reference points (of absolute orientation). There's also a sun sensor with a similar function. I don't know if Voyagers have others.

- "In flight, the device found and locked on to the star Canopus, providing a reference for guidance and navigation."

https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/star-tracker-a... ("Star Tracker and Hood Assembly Support Equipment, Voyager Spacecraft")

https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/sun-sensor-and... ("Sun Sensor and Hood Assembly Support Equipment, Voyager Spacecraft")

edit: In more detail,

https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/43803/how-did-the-...


Also

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41517272 ("NASA Pulls Off Delicate Thruster Swap, Keeping Voyager 1 Mission Alive", 74 comments)


- "No the president’s account, not the vice-president, not the bishop of Rome, no one’s account is that important"

What about your friends'?


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