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It is better to not block ads. Just leave website if you don’t like it. I don’t think you so desperate about the content, also the ads quality will help you decide about content quality.


> It is better to not block ads. Just leave website if you don’t like it.

IMO it's better to do both. Ad supported websites are usually not worth spending time on, but on the occasion, you can still send a signal that you disapprove of this business model.

> the ads quality will help you decide about content quality.

Usually, the very presence of ads tell you the site content is most likely garbage.


> ads quality will help you decide about content quality.

Why should someone rely on correlation between content quality and ads quality, when she is capable of making decision based on an actual content?


Just test it yourself. I've googled "iphone 11", here is first 3 links:

1) https://www.techradar.com/news/iphone-xi Absolute trash, playing video, obtrusive ads, popup. Thank you but no, I don't want to consume shit even if content is stellar (actually it is not).

2) https://9to5mac.com/guides/iphone-11/ Reasonable, actually surprisingly readable. Awesome in terms of rivals.

3) https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3066173/iphone-11-... Absolute trash, can't even see the content because of popup "we'll sell you soul after you accept".

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Blocking ads is bad for everyone, because you still "consume" the website and it has incentive to continue while users are ok with that (not leaving). More likely your ad-block provider sells you visiting history to similarweb or so because nothing is free :)


> Blocking ads is bad for everyone, because you still "consume" the website and it has incentive to continue while users are ok with that

Maybe it is so. But it is not enough to watch ads. Try for yourself, use adblocker for a month. You'll see that it is just plain impossible to use site with ads. You believe that ads is normal, and it is the only reason why you conform.


Advent of mix, squarespace and other website builders is great. In general you don't want to "code" boring similar sites with the same functionality each time. It's awesome that small businesses and casual users can cheaply get some website running without nightmare of hiring/managing, it just works for them.

As a web developer you can code really interesting stuff instead and experiment with other approaches which can't be automated. If client wants to tailor every aspect of logic and look is where the value of web developers is.


Content doesn’t have to be payed by obtrusive ads and user tracking. Many articles wrote just for the sake of writing or as an additional marketing channel (digital ocean articles how to setup servers, basecamp blog and so on).

I don’t want to read the content created with incentive to sell me to advertisers. The quality of such content is also questionable.


Google just gives users what they want. I've checked the link you provided and the website is total wreck in terms of user experience (subscription popup, large obtrusive ad banners and so on).

I have push notification disabled but it wouldn't be surprise for me if they asking to subscribe for push notifications on the first page view.

Current era of content websites is a disaster except few cases like medium and maybe reddit with a discount.

AMP is an only solution for general users who just want to google a cooking recipe or latest news in their town.


As an example, you can delete your messages in telegram. Even in Slack. I think it is reasonable to allow user completely erase its own history from the server.


Nope, "your messages" once they have been received by someone now belongs to that person too. If you say something crazy to me, you shouldn't get to deny it by deleting your messages. If I levy an accusation, I should be able to prove it by showing my message history...


Screen it if you want. Why are you chatting with person who can say something crazy to you in the first place?

I don't treat this feature as something bad, maybe it was a typo in message or just miss-click, so, allow to modify it. Maybe I sent some intimate information and don't want to keep it in history but trust person wouldn't screen it.


How would you prove your message history was not adulterated? The easiest way would be to check the logs of the service itself, but what if those were deleted and only your local copy remains?


The judge would decide. If the app was on a secure platform (android/ios, non root/jailbroken), you could argue that the logs are genuine because the platform prevents you from manipulating the logs. The onus would be on the other party to prove that the logs were fabricated. I wouldn't count on it to secure a criminal conviction, but it would suffice in civil cases.


Those are chat services, which are obviously a different model. Twitter operates their DMs much more like mail or email. If you were allowed to delete the DMs you sent, you could easily threaten someone, then remove the offending message... which is exactly the issue they are having with harassment on the platform in its current iteration.

Maybe, instead of thinking that language is ephemeral, we should realize that what we say has lasting consequences. Maybe then we wont be so mad when we can't take what we said back.


What we say has lasting consequences, but we're not giving a deposition when socializing. We have no mechanism to show how we've evolved over time on any currently contentious issue - a weak "that was a long time ago" doesn't tend to matter. The ability to forget what is no longer important is a trait that is crucial to our brain function, and it stands to reason that it is crucial for a society.


I find Twitter DMs to be very much like a chat. It has the UI of a chat app and messages are stored on a centralized service. What makes it obviously a different model and more like email or mail?


It is indeed arguable what it looks like, but even within chat/IM applications, there is no consensus or convention on should the message be retractable or not. People shouldn't expect one or the other.


I wasn't making an argument either way about retracting messages. I was just surprised that someone would think that the DMs are obviously like e-mail when the UI looks like FB Messenger or Hangouts and message storage and transmission is controlled by a single company. I'm still curious to know how it's like e-mail.


Behaviour that I find user-hostile, and one of the reasons I prefer Signal and IRC over Telegram and Slack.


Should a person be able to delete an email they sent to someone else after the other person has received it? How about a letter you mailed? Should you be able to go into their house and take the letter back? It’s like trying to unring a bell. Once you send it, you no longer own it; the recipient does.


On the other hand, gmail keeps a copy of the received message in the receiver account, even if you delete the sender account.


Only for a limited amount of time after you send it, after I wanna say four hours it can no longer be deleted.


Pretty sure that's the case in MeWe too.


Zulip not rocks at all. Maybe topics are handy buy overall user interface so clumsy, small fonts and so on. Tools like Slack spoiled us in terms of UI. Mattermost maybe closest one to slack slickness.


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