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Basically coding in SQL, very cool.


Maybe they do perform canary deployments and Australia was the canary?

Certainly feels like it's disproportionately affecting us down under.


We’re just the only ones awake to feel it


Anecdotal evidence: the global mega corp I unfortunately work for is definitely feeling this globally


It looks like the whole world is the canary, but they will have the release ready and in top shape for the Mars deployment.


I don't understand why this outage and the Azure outage earlier don't make it to the front page.

I'm getting more up to date technical details from the regular media.

This outage looks to be huge.


This is literally a black swan event that'll be memorialized in textbooks, and that's not even considering the actual fallout that will follow.


That is not an understatement. This is literally the largest failing of internet infrastructure to date.

Alas, using the internet has given us a lot of efficiency. The trade off is resilience. The entire global system is more brittle than ever but it what gave it such speed.


I'd argue the infrastructure of the Internet isn't to blame here, it sounds like a software/config bug at Crowdstrike. There are wider discussions around over-reliance on cloud-based tech too. But the good old Internet can hold its head up high IMHO.


I'm not really sure cloud has much blame here either.

Imagine it's 1998 and Norton push a new definition file that makes NAV think kernel32 is a virus. The only real difference today is that always-on means we all get the update together, instead of waiting for mum to get off the phone this evening.

We got an email this morning telling us none of our usual airlines could take bookings right now. That wouldn't have been much different in 1998, airline bookings have been centralised for my entire lifetime.


That is a fair clarification. More an issue with the stuff on top of the internet.

As per your point, the base infrastructure is working perfectly for better or worse!


It's not a failing of Internet infrastructure.

It's one vendor pushing out a bad update, and thousands of companies with no supply chain diversity.


I responded to another comment with this and you are right, that is a fair clarification.

The base infrastructure worked perfectly fine. The stuff on top of it, not so great.


In a way, this might end up being a blessing in disguise. It's an emergency drill for something potentially catastrophic (e.g. massive cyberattack, solar flare), and it's a large enough wake-up call that society can't just ignore it.


I hope so but never under estimate businesses to cut corners to stay on top. I hope I am wrong.


Expectations: Russia, China or North Korea will take the Western tech infrastructure down.

Reality: the infrastructure took down itself.


This not Internet failure but software functuality failure from a cyber security update , thios is why i never use real cloud security but rather use home cloud security on my Serverpc/NAS/SAN , when it crashes okay so be it i dont get acces to my cloud , but i allways use a online backupcloud that does not need instalation for most important stuff , u should never rely on 1 softweare to do all allways have backups


Did you mean the Azure thing or CS thing? Just happened that the Azure thing did not impact me as I was already off...


It isn't clear at this point that the Azure thing and the CS thing are unrelated


Azure issue and CS issues are separate incidents. They are not related.


Indeed this is different , This is world wide and it does not even only affect Windows pcs but with some friends of mine Linux and Macs are in trouble 2 , this is not ur Windows Vista BS problem etc


The impact is more than huge. Our whole workforce is impacted as the world's largest tech service provider.


Y2K came 24+ years late!


And 12 years before the Unix epoch!


Agreed, I assume people are flagging this post for some reason?


It’s most likely the flame war filtering algorithm of HN. Posts that create a lot of discussion quickly are down ranked until an admin fix the rank manually, or not.


HN has some flame war protection I remember having read, downrating some discussions where it assumes nothing useful is being discussed.

Maybe a false positive? (100% speculation. That's the problem using closed source software)


Most HNers are on the clock while browsing (for work purposes of course) and forcibly afk at the moment.


I'd guess also a significant proportion of us are involved in our company's response to the incident.


Or we just woke up because we are on vacation


I’m on vacation right now, but I do compile a lot of code when at work


Surprised this isn't on the front page, The whole region is down.

* Azure Devops is down globally * Microsoft Entra ID (formerly Azure AD) is down globally * Multi-Factor Authentication is down globally


This one was on the front page but rapidly dropped down to the 4th: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41000822


This game is a reply to last weeks thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36453856 with a different perspective.


The scale on those graphs is wildly different.

Office have 120 down reports per period. Reddit has 40,000.


Because Reddit is more popular than office.

More people panic from missing memes, than missing excel-sheets.


This week I re-created my passion project from 9 years ago.

I've done very little Android development since then so it gave me a good opportunity to reflect on what's changed.


Seems like a win / win to me. An investor like Linus would bring a lot to the table.


For other JS developers the stuff about await isn't relevant. It's not the same as a JS async/await

In JS an await is just syntactic sugar around a then() on a promise. The Await in the article is a method to block the thread until a promise resolves, there is no equivalent in JS.

.NET has a similar mechanism with Task.Result with similar pitfalls


Yes. The async/await in JS is totally different from Await in plain Scala (without any frameworks)


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