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Why not use a Macbook Air for a full experience?


I have a MacBook from work so I do compare them. It’s a worse user experience. No touchscreen, screen is lower and further from my eyes. It’s physically less pleasant to use. There are also some use-cases I can’t even do with the MacBook form factor - eg. on planes, I mount the iPad on the seat in front of me so I watch movies at eye level. Sometimes I hold the iPad in my hands when in pure reading consumption mode.


>I have a MacBook from work so I do compare them. It’s a worse user experience. No touchscreen

And that matters for coding work because?

>screen is lower and further from my eyes.

The iPad screen doesn't have any fixed position, so what are you comparing it to? iPad propped on an Apple iPad keyboard (which would be even lower)? iPad handheld which would be unusable? iPad set flat on a table? iPad on a stand (if so, what prevents you putting the MacBook on a stand?)


MacBook works great at work! Based on my experience with my work device, it’s as pleasant for casual media consumption.

The Magic Keyboard actually lifts the iPad above the keyboard, which puts it in a better viewing position in laptop-mode than an actual laptop. Every little bit helps when you have creaky tendons and joints.


I'm curious what makes you think the MBA is a more "full experience?"

The MBA is permanently affixed to its keyboard: so it can't easily be used for consumption (in bed, on the couch, etc.) The MBA also has no touch screen, and no stylus. The iPad can also ship with a built-in cellular radio. Now I'm carrying an extra tablet, plus an extra hotspot.

That sure sounds like a lot of compromises to me. If I needed more performance I'd be stepping up to a MBP for the active cooling, which pushes us into a different price bracket anyways. If I needed more disk/memory bandwidth I wouldn't even be considering a portable in the first place. (More realistically: I would be using my portable to shell into a more powerful box, and an iPad Pro or even an iPad Air would do that just as well as any MacBook.)

If you need more external I/O, well, I'm not sure I buy that the iPad Pro is a serious compromise over the MBA. It has 40Gb/s of bandwidth and that's _a lot_ for the vast majority of use-cases. My main MBP already sits docked all day via a single thunderbolt cable.

The only reason I would actually choose an MBA over an iPad is that I'm a developer. I place strangely disproportionate value on things like an untrusted boot-chain, kernel extensions, and freedom.[1] I like having the flexibility to be able to bless and enroll my own bootable volumes. I want to be able to tinker with the system partition. I want to introspect the system when things go wrong. The iPad challenges these things by design.

I cannot emphasize this enough: _all of my friends would be lost trying to follow along with the preceding paragraph._ They would look at me like I had two heads. _The above desiderata are not at all representative of the average computer user today._ For most of what I do (media consumption and some content creation) the iPad Pro would do an excellent job, I'd argue better than the MBA. For everything else I do: "iPad Pro vs. MBA" is a false dichotomy, I would not be choosing either of those machines. I would buy a workstation-class device at a minimum.

[1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html


>I'm curious what makes you think the MBA is a more "full experience?" The MBA is permanently affixed to its keyboard: so it can't easily be used for consumption (in bed, on the couch, etc.)

News to me, as it never prevented me from doing exactly that. Like hundreds of millions who don't own a tablet (and I do own some).


> I'm curious what makes you think the MBA is a more "full experience?"

The ability to install apps and third-party browsers without your democratically-elected representatives holding the OEM at gunpoint?


For me personally, I feel that iPadOS > MacOS, especially for a personal device. Also, the touch screen.


I've never ever wanted a Macbook, but I'm ok with an iPad Pro.



Oh man, these looked so awesome. I miss these phones sometimes. There was something cool about seeing what features different phones had. Nowadays, it's basically iOS vs Android, where both OSes do pretty much the same things, and it's all about the apps.


Sony had these on their Clié (Palm OS) devices as well.

I’ve only ever had first-party Palm handhelds, but the scroll wheel (Sony had some nifty name which is eluding me) always seemed very appealing for single-handed use.


Had a Palm III then a Clié back then. The Jog Dial was absolutely awesome.

Then got a LifeDrive, missed every bit of the Jog Dial. Probably the most iPhone-esque thing before the iPhone was a thing though.


>Sony had some nifty name which is eluding me

Jog Dial


I had a SonyEricsson P800 (the first of that series) and it had the same wheel, but IIRC was plastic made (just like the rest of the phone). Oh man I was barely 20yo back then and I feel bad for the hype I had while waiting the phone to actually come out and buy it. I also remember I paid an insane amount of money for it, which then became standard a few years later thanks to Apple.


sorry nerd, no t9 = no buy, how am I supposed to text under the desk at school without t9???


I keep asking the "experts" on Linkedin all the time, show me real life uses - radio silence.


They're already very good at pissing off your customers in the "support" section of your website.


people that have stuff working won't be too keen on showing it to you - especially if it is lucrative :)


Could this be a case like investment alpha? If you have a real life use case and share it then you could lose the opportunity.

So some "experts" could be staying quiet because they don't have one. But some may stay quiet because they are working on or benefiting from it?


I thought this too initially, however by now I would expect one of those to 'break rank' and actually demonstrate some impressive use case, I've not seen anything in terms of 'fire and forget' agents actually achieving a task of any complexity. I had some success using AutoGPT to do some web scraping and it's ability to use powershell was impressive and powerful, and with no safeguarding somewhat hazardous, however it's unpredictability was intolerable.


wow, thanks! how did you find this link? I don't see it anywhere in the main interface.


Looking forward to your feedback!


Professional 2D motion graphics and vector animations for any platform


Trans-Europe Express!


Safari - very fast, minimal UI + great battery life on laptops


why not set up an IRC server?


This will be interesting too once they launch: https://www.expressivesuite.com/ (web based motion graphics + a vector tool).


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