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He didn’t. He was a fad of high school English teachers in 2000-2005, so now a handful of 30-somethings think he was some kind of important figure. Silly.


Please stop posting unsubstantive comments to HN. You've done it a lot, unfortunately, and it's not what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


How is it unsubstantive?


It is a shallow dismissal, snarky, and a non sequitur, for starters.


Should I find all the other comments that mimic mine in the past week to see if you’ve singled them out? There’s twitter threads full of them.


You will certainly find lots of comments that should have been moderated but weren't. That's because we don't come close to seeing everything here.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...


Never long dang you’re right. I won’t comment or submit anything again. I clearly don’t understand the criteria. Cheers.


You're entirely welcome to participate here, and it's not hard to understand the criteria, if you read the guidelines and take the intended spirit of the site to heart. Basically, we want to have a place on the internet that's good for curious conversation and manages to escape the default outcome of internet forums, which is to decline and eventually destroy themselves.

If you take a look at these links maybe the reason why we do things this way will get a little clearer, and if not, we're happy to answer any questions from users who sincerely want to use HN as intended.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...


> He didn’t. He was a fad of high school English teachers in 2000-2005

"The Waste Land is a poem by T. S. Eliot, widely regarded as one of the most important poems of the 20th century and a central work of modernist poetry. Published in 1922"


It’s hot takes like this that make me come to HN to read ppl’s opinions on literary figures. It’s as if the Nebraska Farm Report had a society weddings page.

Talking about 20th century critics and not mentioning Elliot is like talking about pop music in 1960s Hamburg and failing to mention the Beatles.


You learn how to read and you learn basic math. That’s really it from a useful educational standpoint. Happy to debate it.


My children have learned far more than reading and basic math in their K-8 schools. This is an obvious fact and not open for debate. Distance learning is not an acceptable replacement. It's time to immediately reopen all primary schools. Education is essential and worth the risk.


Are you ready to take responsibility for all the people that would either die or have their health damaged by the virus? Including probably a significant number of teachers, parents, and even a few children?


You have decided it is worth the risk to your family in your judgement. Fine. But to which risk are you referring? The risk to your children? How about the risks to the teachers? How about the other staff? How about the child's grandparents? How about the other children in the classroom and their families? You are asking a large number of people to take considerable risk because you have decided classroom education RIGHT NOW is "worth the risk."

Nobody is suggesting the end of classroom education. The question is whether doing the best we can with distance learning for a time and postponement of classroom eduction until better treatments and/or vaccines come on line is a better choice. It is really not a big sacrifice to ensure the safety of about 4 million teachers and maybe another million or two staff persons.

Assuming the death rate is optimistically only 0.2%, that is about 12,000 teachers and staff deaths. Ignoring the thousands of other deaths originating from these cases, are you really saying that 12,000 deaths is a realistic price to pay so your child can go back into the classroom NOW rather than next year? Really?

The fact that this would be a very bad choice seems an "obvious fact and not open for debate."


GP isn’t proposing that only their child attend school. Instead, it’s an entire generation of children who will benefit from the delta of an extra in-person year of instruction.

Similarly, whatever factor you apply to count deaths, you can only count deaths above the baseline when considering the change in school policy.

It’s quite far from your side of “obvious fact and not open for debate”, IMO.


I quoted “obvious fact and not open for debate” from the previous note. Sarcasm on my part. My point is that this is NOT black and white and the net benefit of reopening is NOT an "obvious fact."


Nice way to intentionally misinterpret the stats

Unless most of your teachers are living in nursing homes, your numbers are way off.


> This is an obvious fact and not open for debate.

Not with that attitude, nope sure isn’t.

It is up for debate. I know for a fact you’re wrong. I was educated outside of any schooling system until the 9th grade. I learned basic math and was a voracious reader. I walked into 9th grade without missing a beat.


Back in the day this is how it worked. They changed it. Nobody that I can recall was complaining for it to change at the time. Circa 2006 I think.

edit: grammar


It was much smaller and less influential back then.


Ignoring the qt part entirely, I think qmake is the best of the bunch.


Qt is moving to CMake too. And the latest versions of CMake are as good, or better, than qmake. Add to that vcpkg and you will have a fantastic solution for managing dependencies.

Maybe CMake is not the best but is good enough and the new standard in the C++ world.


It’s really not good enough, it’s ok to admit it. Nobody likes CMake, it just somehow won the makefile generator wars. Having to a learn shitty, esoteric language to compile my code Is not something that makes me more productive.


I agree. qmake was much, much better to work with than cmake. I tend to believe the reason cmake won is because qmake was so associated with Qt. The best tech does not always win.


> Having to a learn shitty, esoteric language to compile my code Is not something that makes me more productive.

You say that but frankly between CMake code and Ant or msbuild ...


Qmake. It’s simple, it’s cross-platform, it gets out of my way.


it's also going the way of the dodo as Qt 6 is migrating to CMake :p


5 will get forked because of the way 6 is being licensed.



Android also settled with cmake, while keeping the original ndk-build makefile based one, after doing a couple of failed attempts to switch to something else.

After 10 years they are finally introducing AAR support for NDK projects, which is also built on top of cmake.


qmake is has very poor handling of dependencies between generate header files, like those used with protobuf.

https://github.com/jmesmon/qmake-protobuf-example


Knowing what I know about Qt and what I've done with it in my day job, it's basically the best kept secret on hn. What they're doing with 6+licensing... I'm not sure how I feel, but from a pure multi-platform framework it really is the bees knees.

I've taken c++ qt desktop apps that never had any intention of running on a phone, built them, ran them, everything "just worked. I was impressed.


I just wish it weren't stuck, anisotropically, ~10 years in the past. Maybe Qt6 will be better, but more likely it will be more and more QML.


Since QML uses Javascript it may be their best bet to attract new developers.


Yes, well, QML also uses JavaScript.


CI/CD + uh... doing your job? I build one app (same codebase) on 4 different platforms often, it isn't terribly hard.


The bank account numbers on a personal check or the one you give your employer for direct deposit?


Aren't those the same?


Yes


Heh welp pardon me for having more than one bank account


As a carnivore I’ve learned the same.


As an omnivore I didn’t know either of these things before now, so I thank my learned extreme-dieted colleagues for sharing.


It was never level-headed or intellectual.


So your point is, call your insurance company such that you don't commit insurance fraud? I'm struggling to see your gripe.


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