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Actually, it doesn't "force" you to use get/set. You can just POJOs just fine w/ Ember, but you won't get property observation or unknownProperty support.

I also question your assumption that Object.observe will be as fast as Ember's observation system. I wouldn't be surprised if it was several times slower.

Object.observe also doesn't support array observation, which is something we support in Ember.


If you inspect the DOM, you can see the links to the MP4/WebM videos. We'll add download links and a podcast feed soon.


> If you inspect the DOM, you can see the links to the MP4/WebM videos. We'll add download links and a podcast feed soon.

Classic ember.js team response.

(the webcasts are great though)


Or, you know, the Lean Startup response.

(While I posted this, I have no affiliation, to be clear. I just got a launch email today from being on the list.)


Classic, silly, dismissive HN response. </meta>


We've added download links :)


I think you meant to suggest: {{log controller}}


I just want to point out that Randy is advocating for the use of Cappuccino. Many people seem to be thinking that is the point. It's not.


I feel like this argument is similar to what people said when Rails hit the scene.


FYI, Rob Conery just posted a great post that addresses the exact issues the OP had: http://wekeroad.com/2013/03/20/ember-baby-steps


I'm really glad Rob stuck with it and is starting to grok Ember. I promise it's worth it!


Not sure why this is suddenly newsworthy, it's a pretty old and inaccurate blog post.


License has been added. It's MIT.


That's true. Ember isn't trying to provide a set of UI widgets out of the box. I'm confident that Ember-compatible UI libraries will be released in the near future.

SproutCore 1.x isn't very mobile-friendly at the moment. The original reason the SproutCore 2.0 rewrite began was to make the framework lightweight so that it'd be more suitable for use on mobile platforms.

I've started a project, Ember-Titanium, that enables native mobile app development using Ember's runtime on the Titanium Mobile platform. The project is still in it's infancy, but I've already been successful at building apps with it.

https://github.com/ebryn/ember-titanium


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