deogeo's comments

On: Princeton math prof challenges admins 'systemic ra...

[deogeo]

And yet Black students are better represented than non-Jewish White students. Princeton vs US demographics (in %), from most to least represented:

          Princeton  US    ratio
  Asian   20.9       5.3    3.94
  Jewish   8.0       2.15   3.72
  Black    7.7      12.7    0.61
  White   34.7      59.3    0.58
  Latino   9.5      17.6    0.54

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_Sta...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews (using average of 2.15%)

https://hillel.org/college-guide/list/record/princeton-unive...

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/princeton-university...

[byoung2 → deogeo]

And yet Black students are better represented than non-Jewish White students.

Google "Princeton Basketball Team" or "Princeton Football Team" and you will see that Blacks are over-represented on these teams (27% to 30%). I suspect many other sports are similar. You can see how colleges boost the number of Black students in areas where it serves the interests of the school.

https://goprincetontigers.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster https://goprincetontigers.com/sports/football/roster/2019

[raxxorrax → byoung2]

Would you be in favor of restricting access of black students to ensure others are represented more fairly?

I hope not.

On: World Government

[deogeo]

Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

On: The Disinvitation

[deogeo]

Of course, when faced with a few loud complainers, you would never consider yourself to be right, and them wrong. You would recognize the folly of your ways, and the wisdom of the crowd that was right all along.

[dmit → deogeo]

> If, <...>, my first thought would be <...>

> Of course, when <...>, you would never consider <...>

Presented without comment.

On: The Disinvitation

[deogeo]

"Software Craftsmanship is Sexist and Must be Scrapped" -- https://medium.com/@alandevlin7/software-craftsmanship-is-se...

It seems what he wrote was accurate. What problem do you have with it, specifically?

On: The Disinvitation

[deogeo]

For the benefit of those less up to date, why don't you link them.

On: Faces of Power: 80% Are White, Even as U.S. Become...

[deogeo]

If one digs deeper, one sees that of the 25 university heads, 11 (44%) are Jewish (2% of the US). Meaning of the 25, only 12 (48%) are non-Jewish white (58% of the US) (NYT counted 13, but Jahanian is Iranian, which surely qualifies as a minority).

For the supreme court, 3 (33%) are Jewish, and 4 (44%) non-Jewish white.

Of the major news organization heads, 4 (27%) are Jewish, and 53% non-Jewish white.

Of the top TV and Hollywood heads, 7 (28%) are Jewish, and 60% non-Jewish white.

So it turns out, looking at only non-Jewish whites, they're more often than not under-represented.

On: Who keeps buying California's scarce water? Saudi ...

[deogeo]

> But what business does a foreign company have drawing precious resources from a US desert to offset a lack of resources halfway around the globe?

Surprisingly nativist rhetoric coming from the Guardian.

On: The Left Is Now the Right

[deogeo]

> Few tears will be shed for the SAT and ACT exams, even though they were once infamous for causing Harvard to be overpopulated with high-scoring “undesirables” like Jews and Catholics, forcing the school to add letters of reference and personal essays to help restore the WASP balance.

Tangential, but this is highly misleading. Jewish students are still over 5x over-represented, and non-Jewish white students are 0.6x under-represented, according to Harvard's own diversity report and polling done by Jewish organizations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23764422

On: Prominent Artists and Writers Warn of an ‘Intolera...

[deogeo]

> Another person who signed, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in an effort to stay out of the growing storm, said she did not know who all the other signatories were when she agreed to participate, and if she had, she may not have signed.

Always condemn 'the enemy', even when you agree with them. Anything else could be interpreted as a sign of disloyalty.

[dragonwriter → deogeo]

> Always condemn 'the enemy', even when you agree with them. Anything else could be interpreted as a sign of disloyalty.

Less cynically, the concern may reasonably be that the relationship to claims certain of the signatories have made about the relation of particular events to the broad themes the letter raises alters the message of the letter when they are associated with it.

Context matters.

On: Legacy and Athlete Preferences at Harvard (2019)

[deogeo]

While still greatly over-represented (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23764422), Hillel tends to over-count Jewish students, according to https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/how-many-jewish-undergraduat...