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SawStop actually granted Bosch a license to their safety patents for Reaxx some time ago. Moreover, they said during the hearing that they'd offer permissive public licensing to their remaining patents should this rule be made effective.


They said, sure. Saw Stop has been such a toxic bad actor around their patents since forever, they don't get any benefit of doubt. I'm certain they'd just back down from that promise as soon as the law passes. How about they make all their patents public domain beforehand, to motivate passing the law (and I'd that point I'd be happy to support the law).

And imagine if this law passes and Saw Stop has monopoly on table saws. Sure, today you can buy one for $900 but nothing will prevent them from raising that to like $5000 when nobody else is allowed to build a table saw.


Saw Stop's original patents are expiring. Reaxx will come back on the market and there will be a superior alternative that doesn't self-destruct. Saw Stop defending their patents during their period of exclusivity is the entire point of the patent system. There is no reason to vilify them for it when they used it to launch a successful business.


There is a huge difference between defending a patent in a free market and regulatory capture mandating a product.

The patent system is not very compatible with highly regulated markets, it changes the game from choosing to buy something innovative to a non-voluntary overreach.


What is toxic about their behavior? It seems like they genuinely invented the mousetrap for this particular type of mouse and wanting to be paid for that invention seems commercial rather than inherently toxic.


An ancestor comment mentioned a patent using electricity to detect flesh in sheep sheerers from 1982...


Detecting flesh using electricity probably dates back from the voltaic pile, more than 200 years ago.

But it wasn't used to stop sawblades. How to reliably detect flesh without too many false triggers, do it fast enough, on a spinning blade, and as part of a complete system that includes the brake and actuation mechanism. That's what the patent is about, not the vague idea of using electricity to detect flesh.


You do have some kind of proof for this wild accusation.. right?


> Moreover, they said during the hearing that they'd offer permissive public licensing to their remaining patents should this rule be made effective.

It sounds incredibly naive to think this will happen. If they haven't done it so far why would they do it when the government mandates that you have to be their customer?


Because any rule should trivially have 'permissive public licensing' as a requirement?


Indeed, and Bosch did not reenter the market with a Reaxx because they believe that people will not spend the extra money. For me this is a very strong argument for a mandate.


Yes the mandate will both drive down prices and force adoption. Both good things


> You agree that Zoom compiles and may compile Service Generated Data based on Customer Content and use of the Services and Software.

This clause reads like the distinction is less about the contents and more about zoom's rights to use any content


By rightmost lane, do you mean the on/offramp? Otherwise, it's legally required in much the country to stay in the right lane except when passing.


I meant 3 lane highways.


I would be curious how this matches their age cohort, given the relatively recent aging of Congress relative to their constituency


Aside from their use with crypto, these are just nice looking pieces of hardware. Is there any word on whether you'll be able to run custom code on these?



I was thinking the same thing. Someone please make similar hardware as an open platform.


I believe the Trezor is 100% open source, and a pretty good wallet.


To be clear this varies between slow cookers. As a rule they will top out at a simmer rather than a true boil.


This reminds me of another deep sea mystery trace, Paleodictyon[1]. Once an unconnected set of geometric fossils and modern hole patterns, it's been discovered that this phenomenon has occurred in a consistent form for half a billion years up to the present day.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleodictyon


There's a nice PBS video about them with footage of the holes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz1fccY3S84


That Paleodictyon is clearly a fossilized chickenwire fence. Source: grew up on a chicken farm.


Anybody else repulsed by that pattern? I don’t know why but I am.


Others linked it, but I believe trypophobia was an evolutionary advantage genetic instinctive trait that kept early human carriers repulsed and therefore safely avoidant of infestations (contagious disease welts/boils, harmful insect hives, and the like).


"trypophobia" ("fear of holes") is a phenomenon where some people find similar patterns to that disturbing or repellant, might be the same thing. Of course Googling that will give you lots of similar images that you might find similarly repellant.


Trypophobia. I won't link to Wikipedia, if such a thing bothers you I'm not going to try to trigger it.


I didn't have trypophobia but after looking at Google Images I think I do now

I'll be looking at lotus seeds differently now


I'm not sure if I have it, but when I searched for image examples it looked extremely gross to me.

EDIT: I seriously regret searching it now. Please don't while you still can. It is absolutely grotesque.


> Please don’t while you still can.

Counterpoint: you (reader) should give in to that gnawing feeling of curiosity. One little peek never hurt anyone.

(Really, it’s not that bad.)


Not everyone is triggered by those pictures, to me they don't look gross at all. I can scroll through pics of lotus seed pods all day.


I can put myself in the headspace of finding it creepy, but by default it just looks like stuff to me. Regular objects. In the case of honeycomb it can actually look beautiful, though.


What’s weird is the images in the article freaked me out. The Google search images did nothing for me. Maybe I was just primed / warned ?


It's the hands...it's all you get to see with duckduckgo. The hands are nasty...


I searched it, and, for me it was interesting and I became curious. Some pictures were obviously doctored and made to make you feel something, others, were just.. interesting.


I don’t get what the big deal is. Most of it was just some fake images of holes in hands and stuff? And the seed pod is scary for some reason?


Some might take that as an indication that you don't have trypophobia.


Okay, the lotus seed pictures did nothing to me, but Google Images is filled with far more disgusting images.

Stay away!


> Okay, the lotus seed pictures did nothing to me, but Google Images is filled with far more disgusting images.

Same! Why does body mutilation imagery like that rank so high for that search term? Ugh!


Fascinating. I'd never heard of trypophobia before reading this post this morning... right after which I walked into an art exhibit and saw this amazing painting by Alfredo Arreguín...

https://ibb.co/GQrrxNY


There is also a subreddit dedicated to that phobia, I don’t believe I have it but some of the pictures there definitely give me the willies.


Fair warning: The subreddit is focused on _triggering_ the phobia.


It takes a particular type of masochist to have tropophobic tendencies and being subscribed to that subreddit.


No more then when people get kicks from horror movies no?


Exposure therapy?


Yes and no. I’m repulsed when it’s used as some sort of horror imagery superimposed on someone’s skin. But otherwise it’s a fairly pleasing pattern. Unfortunately it’s hard to understand grotesque imagery.


i had an old encloypaedia when I was a kid. It had been published in the 1960s. In it under the computer section it had a colour photo of a processor or something and it was this incredibly dense criss-cross pattern of what looked like wiring. I never knew why but that picture used to give me a funny feeling in my brain that I didn't like.


Probably a core memory board?


I don't know, next time i'm in my parent's last house I will see if the book made it there.


I don't even recall if it was legit - being early days internet - but I remember (and cannot un-remember) the image of a frog that would give birth to tadpoles, or maybe tiny frogs, out of its back. Horrifying.


Yes but more scared than repulsed. It made me feel scared for some reason.


Immediately not clicking.


It's a simple pattern which I'll describe in this paragraph with some padding before and after, so you may give up on reading, even though it is in my opinion among the mildest patterns that would trigger trypophobia. It's a fossil of a hexagonal grid of tubes imprinted on a rock. There are examples of the pattern on a sunny rock, on a sandy rock, an isolated slab of rock with the pattern, and finally what looks like a microscope or underwater picture of similar stringy coral patterns. Now I need some final padding, so someone glancing will not glance at the end of the paragraph and see some of the description. But I'm not sure on what to say here, as there isn't much to it, it's just a fossil. There are no gruesome images.


I was being glib. I find myself occasionally silently belittling trigger warnings in social media and news stories, but the Tiny Holes thing really triggers me. I'm not going to Google the word right now to remember how to spell it correctly.


I believe you're thinking of "Antihypoxiant," a very different story by the same author


I'm teaching my partner to drive and I've noticed that Google Maps will suggest very different routes to the same destination. It's also less accurate in estimating times, adding 5-10 minutes for its indirect routes versus taking straight paths.

Another thing I've noticed is that some directions will use businesses ("take a left after McDonald's") as landmarks in navigation. I'm beginning to believe the routing noise was introduced to allow navigational ads.

If the effectiveness of a core product is being compromised for monetization, is this what's also happening to their Search?


It's defensive. High salaries and plum projects keep good engineers from building your successor.


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