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lol, xi doesnt "explicitly say he plans to". stop lying


sometimes we're aware of an issue and management has decided its not worth the effort to actually fix it, but also management doesn't want support to straight up tell people we wont help you, so they basically obfuscate


it's just not true, its straight up fake news


so is everyone who likes it just wrong? or what?


Just weird.

It really does smell like cow dung and tastes like it too. Are my taste buds somehow misaligned?


it doesnt smell or taste like that to me at all


Must be a Coriander/Cilantro -thing, some people smell it differently


there is a name for this "hypothesis" and other people have worked on the idea. it's called the "energy theory of value"


Core belief of Howard Scott's Technocracy Now movement,

> At the core of Scott's vision was "an energy theory of value". Since the basic measure common to the production of all goods and services was energy, he reasoned "that the sole scientific foundation for the monetary system was also energy", and that by using an energy metric instead of a monetary metric (energy certificates or 'energy accounting') a more efficient design of society could be made

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement

If nothing else it's a fascinating lens to view modernity through.


because the US is one of the most warlike countries to ever exist that can only contextualize solutions through war


part of why it's so hard is that modern economics grew out of "political economy" by pretending to divorce itself from politics and ideology, which of course it never really did. so you end up studying something whitewashed to pretend it isn't intimately linked with political goals and nothing really makes sense without also figuring out the real questions being asked. like you want to optimize the allocation of resources? great, optimize which resources for who, and how do you define the real cost functions etc? a lot of that stuff gets assumed a priori and you'll probably be going into an economics discussion or study with totally different starting assumptions than the economics math is using and get stuck when the math doesn't make sense


"(e.g., you can't use public bathrooms if your social score is too low)"

do you have a source on this? i have used dozens of public bathrooms in china and i've never seen any of them gated off for specific people for any reason or anyone checking anything before you go inside


The things people believe about the social credit score just shows they don't know how little we know about China. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1716857951380721972.html


And then there's the Uighur minority who can't buy knives that don't have QR codes on them [0], that is if they haven't been imprisoned or forced into factory labour hundreds of miles from home.

[0] https://www.fastcompany.com/40510238/in-xinjiang-china-some-...


way more than half. the world bank says at least 75% of the reduction has been in china alone and some other stats show that globally, excluding china, poverty has gotten worse in recent decades


i live in shenzhen and i would love it if prices dropped 30-40%. i'd buy an apartment immediately lol. i've been checking real estate prices every once and a while for about 5 years now ready to buy if something shows up at a good price in an area i want to live in

the reality so far is that prices have pretty much stayed flat for the past 4-5 years. there hasnt been any significant fall anywhere within like 1 hour of me in shenzhen


I guess you weren't looking hard enough.

Pre-owned housing prices in Shenzhen fell by nearly half from their peak in 2020 after holding up over the past two years of plunging new-home values amid slumping demand and a liquidity crunch for developers.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2023-08-25/shenzhen-existing-ho...

Meanwhile, according to Leyoujia store transaction data, second-hand housing prices in Shenzhen in the fourth quarter of 2023 were around 65,000 yuan per square meter, down 12% from 2022, and 22% lower than the all-time high in the first quarter of 2021. The transaction prices in some areas and real estate have already returned to 2018, and the drop compared to the highest point was as high as 30% to 40%.

https://news.futunn.com/en/post/36099590?level=1&data_ticket...


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