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> Its not like "processing" makes something more or less poisonous.

At scale, processing food often introduces challenges only solvable by introducing chemicals and practices that are considered harmful to humans.

Phthalates become more common in foods the more times it changes hands. Sterilized environments necessary for processing must be sanitized by using chlorine, some of which is exposed to the food itself. Most processed foods have ingredients that are also processed, so the effects of this are compounded. Many preservatives, past and present, have positive correlations with various types of cancer and neurological diseases.

I agree with base premise — you don't automatically start eating healthily by choosing whole foods. But I think it's harmful to consider processing as benign.


Imagine that an entity knows your worst fears, deepest desires, biggest perversions, most sensitive insecurities, the people you love, the people you hate, the things you covet.

Now let's pretend that they know how to use this information to change your opinion. And not just your opinion, but the opinion of however many people fit their targeted persuasion campaign. Then understand that the moment the data is sold to another group, they have the same power. The new group might want to do things more sinister than sell you designer jeans.

Finally, realize that the information will last longer than you will. It'll probably be your legacy.


I feel like this is a bit superfluous fear mongering. We are somewhat in control of ourselves, and should be expected to take responsibility for our actions. And this is just another way of using ads to attempt to manipulate us. Overtime we will learn to adjust the influence of ads, just as we have done before. I don't trust the government to fix this entirely, so I think its more important to learn to identify these persuasions, so they don't influence our actions.


Where's the fear mongering? This has already happened. Look at fake news. Look at russia manipulating people. Ads work, there is no way to adjust their influence other than refusing to allow them into your life at all. Even then, there's many ads you can't avoid online or in real life.


I appreciate your desire to solve the problem, and I'm certainly pro-vaccination. However, I really don't want to set another precedent of allowing the state to permanently detain people because of perceived public danger (real or otherwise).

Imagine if this kind of thinking prevailed in the HIV hysteria of the 80's/90's. It's relatively easy to follow this approach to its logical conclusion. When you order authoritarianism, it's very likely you'll get it. And not simply in the places you want it.


The HIV scenario is not equivalent. It was new, people were frightened and ignorant. There is no cure, no vaccination. Measles is a well understood disease that had been eradicated. Openly putting others at risk because of some nonsense belief should not be tolerated.

Are you good with a HIV+ person knowingly infecting others because it's their right to refuse antiviral medication? Measles and other highly contagious diseases can infect large populations without anyone knowing before it's too late.


I don't disagree with you and I trust you to make the distinction between the two things. However, I don't trust lawmakers/police/military to have the same sense of nuance.


That's a great idea! I'll make a note to do that.


That's correct -- I hand curated the products and entered their nutrition info. The actual application is the product funnel / data entry side. My goal is to create a curated, searchable list of keto-friendly products.


If this is "curated", please give examples of keto products on Amazon that failed to meet your curation standards... and indicate why no keto product that you don't make affiliate money on met your curation standards. Otherwise, this is indistinguishable from spam.


If a product is on Amazon and listed as keto, it would probably meet the curation standards I set. I look primarily at the macro-nutrients to decide whether to include it in my collection.

However, there are a great number of keto friendly products that aren't listed as such on Amazon. I'm pulling those into my feed and determining whether they meet qualifications as well (an obvious example would be beef jerky -- it's typically not marketed as keto friendly but much of it has the correct macronutrients).

I appreciate the feedback though! I certainly see your point of view regarding the appearance of spam. I'll put effort into making the experience better. And you're right -- I need to include products that might not be listed on Amazon.

Thanks!


Hey! Creator here. KetoHunt is a simple web app I built a while back while searching for foods I could eat on my ketogenic diet. It's nothing special, just a simple Rails app and a mailing list.

I try to add a few products per day and may build additional features if the interest is there. Thanks for checking it out. :D


Not OP, but the respect comes from the idea that the food exists and you're able to eat it. We are extraordinarily lucky (or as religious folks might say, blessed) to live in a time where being ambivalent about dinner-time is an option.


These are perhaps the best laid out articles I've ever seen (example: https://quicksilver.primer.ai/Adrian_J._Luckman/). Not only is the typography stunning, but there's no friction between the reader and the information.


Are we reading the same link? And the typography is irrelevant if it's going on Wikipedia.


> It's interesting they didn't have confidence in the babysitter's ability to take care of you for an evening but still chose to hire them and then monitored them via payphone.

No one questioned the babysitter's competence. They're your children -- you're going to want to call and check to see how things are going.


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Please stop with the overly dramatic, wordy writing - you've taken an extremely interesting conversation and turned it into a cesspool.


> you're going to want to call and check to see how things are going

Yes. If you suffer from high levels of anxiety and don't trust your own decisions about who to trust, this is true. Many people, particularly Americans, are this way. It is not true for every parent, however.


Out of curiosity, do you have children?


I’m not the above poster, but I did babysit for several families in my grad school years a few years ago. The parents would not generally communicate with me when they were out. If they did, it would be to let me know they’d be early or late, and suggestions for food or activity if they were late. There wasn’t a routine check to make sure their kids were alive & well.


You do by phoning home without reason.


Uhm, yes you are, and pretty clearly at that.


No, not really. If someone goes out for drinks, then dinner, then a show and the night is going really well maybe the parents want to call and check in. They want to see how the nights going for the babysitter and kid. Are the kids asleep? Is the babysitter content to make some more money for a few extra hours? I think that's all entirely reasonable. It really has little to do with the matter at hand but having to wait in a line to submit or retrieve your phone, be sequestered to a penned in area to use your phone, and then to have to wait in line again to put your phone back into that "prison" system again seems like overkill. I know that's the only way we've been able to identify that works but I don't think there is any surefire method that will not only please the artists / performers and keep the viewers / fans / people in attendance happy.


But, how many times will you have to call ?

Surely not every time you go to the loo, if it's just the once it's hardly much inconvenience.


"...having to wait in a line to submit or retrieve your phone, be sequestered to a penned in area to use your phone, and then to have to wait in line again to put your phone back into that "prison" system again..."

The vast majority of the time consumed in that process is simply getting out from where you sit/stand and back, which is the same in the "unjailed" phone scenario.

Unless, of course, you were just going to go ahead and conduct that call right there in the venue anyway.


I'm thinking about how annoying this would be at any sort of venue or music event. Someone said prior the main reason they'd use their phone in that situation is to group up with others they came with or met there if they get split up. I can empathize with that 150% and feel that, as someone who will never do more than snap a quick photo of a musical act for nostalgic purposes, the system in place to leave your phone locked up like coat check is mostly just annoying.

It all reminds me of DRM causing problems for legitimate, paying customers when the DRM should only be targeting those who go outside of the rules. That's where someone else's comment about treating everyone like adults and kicking people out who break the rules seems like the best bet, although they also admitted (and I agree) that this system just doesn't work as needed, either.


Phones aren't even that good in gigs for grouping up, vs just walking around.

A lot of the time your mates aren't looking at the phone at the right time, or there are so many people that you don't get good reception. Looking up and just finding people works pretty well.


Not sure what you mean by "really senior", but I've been professionally programming for the last 8 years and it still happens to me. The embarrassment has lessened and it's less frequent, but it does happen.


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