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Short of them having some complete breakthrough of where the server can do some massive massive pre-computation to alleviate client side computations, I don't see this happening.

Between the computation / communication tradeoff, this would have to be a huge breakthrough for rendering.


what's the best open source alternative to git hub? (no, I don't want to host my code on third party servers)

the best I've used so far is trac, but their git support were flaky when I last tested it (only ran well with svn at the time)


I've been happily using Gitosis for quite a while now. It's like Github without the web interface (so it manages central repositories and user authentication).

I recall it took a bit of finagling to set it up, but I haven't had a single issue with it since. It's also cool that the configuration files are stored in a Git repository (once you try it, it will be clear how that works).

http://scie.nti.st/2007/11/14/hosting-git-repositories-the-e...


There is also gitorious[1]. Haven't tried it myself.

[1] http://gitorious.org/


As a Chinese American guy with great grades, I believe your friend is full of BS (unless she's "Chinese" in that she actually lives in China). In HS / College, I've never seen good grades = popularity.


Yes, she's from Shanghai. I have no reason to think she is lying.


I think it has lots to do with cultural values. I went to elementary school in Taiwan for 4 years. In an asian education environment, you need to take exams after exams to get into good schools to get a good job. Not to say it isn't the same in the states, but it's on a different level. In junior high school, it isn't uncommon to see kids stay at school for 14 hours plus to study months on end. Most schools have rankings for midterms/finals, and some give out a slap on the wrist for every point under 90 (at least when I went to school) to reinforce the importance of studying.

So being bad academically is more like losing a school wide competition, rather than the American system of being able to shrug it off as something you don't care about. In Asian countries, they don't buy the idea that people can be talented at different things, it's more a black and white "you're smart or you're not" thing. So of course people like winners more than losers.

So back to the point in the article.. I don't think it's about the actual utility of a person's skill, but the perceived successfulness within the context of societal values.

Which brings up an interesting point: other than using the societal values, how else will you know how successful a person is when real success is often based on luck and isn't apparent until ~30?


Keep in mind that Shanghai has its own local culture that is quite (in)famous throughout China and the Pacific Rim, so her experiences may not be applicable to China as a wider whole.


I believe that's precisely what he meant - in Asia guys with good grades are valued quite highly by the womenfolk. That being said, IMHO this is temporary - girls will still go for the bad biker dude (or its Asian equivalent) in the end.


What else would "Chinese" mean!?


edit: some variant of swftools ? others have more info?


Jim Clark. Read "The New New Thing"

BTW, the question implies PG is a role model for me. As awesome as he is, he's not.


Are people still making money from facebook apps these days? I thought it was over a while back (and thus why the mass exodus to develop on the iPhone although apple's approval process sucks.)


Are you joking? The top Facebook apps make more in a month than the top iPhone apps make in a lifetime. Even mid level apps, the sort that would never make the top 25 on iTunes, make more in a year than a top 10 paid app on iTunes does.

Try Googling for Zynga Revenues. The Facebook platform is orders of magnitude more profitable than iPhone.

Don't mistake buzz for profitability.


Matt, the more people think that Facebook apps don't make any money, the happier I think we'll both be. =)


Ha, true. If it weren't broadly available information that you almost had to close your eyes to miss I'd never mention it.


> Zynga

Don't get me started on my Mafia Wars addiction.


The game that can be (and is) played by a script.


World of Warcraft can also be played by a script. That hasn't hurt it's profitability or popularity.


Does World of Warcraft still make money? I thought everyone was on the iPhone all day now ;)


Do you pay for that crap though?


Do you have data that you could use to backup your post?



Thanks for the tip.

I can't up vote you enough. Almost tempted to create new HN accounts just to up vote you.


Why all the downvotes? (I don't mind downvoted, just curious about an explaination).


Whenever I get downvotes, I stop to consider whether or not my comment has added to the conversation. If I think it has, and I can't figure out why I got downvoted, I just move on.

Of course now I re-read all my comments right after I post them, so I tend to delete quite a few before voting happens either way.


I would guess for the notion of creating another HN account to sockpuppet/additionally up-rate someone.


Straight-up ad network banners won't make much money, but incentivized apps can pull in some serious cash.


Actually, you'd be surprised on the banners too. They've gotten better. We've been seeing regular 50 cents eCPM from just 1 banner, and if we tried hard, we could probably work in another one or two without seriously degrading the user experience.

That adds up fast, since the platform makes it not too hard to get to hundreds of thousands (or even millions) of pageviews a day. 1m page views per day at 50 cents eCPM is still $182k per year. Not a bad second income stream.


50c eCPM is definitely not bad on FB (of course, it depends on a lot of factors :p)

Which ad network do you use?


Crypto, in general, is really hard to get right.

With 'normal' code, if it's broken, something doesn't work, and you know to fix it. With crypto, if it's 'broken', all the valid requests still work, and you don't know that anything's wrong.

In fact, as far as I know, the only way to know if your crypto code is 'working', is to prove it ... in the form of, if you can somehow break my crypto, you will also be able to break problem X, where X is a problem the crypto community has generally accepted to be hard to solve.


I am. Order not crossed up at all; this is just divide & conquer approach; figure out what end goal is, then divide it into smaller problems, and solve each of those. :-)


Why does this seem like a refinement on the 5 year-old's "Why?...Why?..."


late reply but I feel this partially identifies your "problem".

natural response > programmed response :)


Can we have a poker bot competition? I'm not a great poker player myself (in fact, I don't really even know the rules) -- but I think it'd be another cool way to socialize; especially if people are required to release the source later, and we can all chat about what worked / didn't work, etc ...


This is much, much harder than you think :)


I didn't say the bots had to play well ... if at the end of every competition, everyone rises up to the level of the winner, then I think the bots would also improve drastically :-)


Can you explain this more? Why would HN comments vanish? Doesn't google follow all links?


HN was not designed with SEO and linkage in mind -- after a while pages can become "orphaned" after they get pushed down by new stuff. No search engine follows all links. As a practical matter they generally give up after 6-8 links away from the home page.


Google search for this site still returns years old results:

http://www.google.bg/search?q=site:http://news.ycombinator.c...

(for better results try "800 days ago" with quotes, HN strips them for some reason)


Actually today Google seems to be indexing most of the site. But usually when I do searches like:

site:news.ycombinator.com alex3917 "rule of thumb"

Only half of those posts show up, and to find the rest I need to use searchyc.com


Personal anecdote, I have no idea if it's 100% related to OP:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=576727

Now google today for "80-19-1"... it's not even on the second page (and it was the 3rd result to me too previously).

I guess OP's point is that Google is "happy" with fresh content, puts it on the front page, then the evil algorithms ;) push it farther.


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