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I don't know about Dropbox but for example Twitter is still losing money since 2012. Twitter is way overvalue in the market and has lost around $2 billion since inception. Obviously it's not the same as 2000, these companies have revenue, but some of the are not making even a profit. If they continue to throw tech companies with revenue and losing money as IPOs prepare for the next tech bubble. It will burst.


If you read the article, Dropbox is bringing in a billion a year and is almost profitable.


It's bewildering to me how a company can have $1B in revenue and not able to make file-syncing profitable.


Why? Amazon made billions in revenue for years and only recently became profitable.


>"Why? Amazon made billions in revenue for years and only recently became profitable."

Do you think the complexity of Amazon and Dropbox are even in the same universe?

Disclaimer: I like both companies.


And that was purely a tax-avoidance strategy. Top employees have always been compensated via stock instead of any form of profit sharing. Now that Amazon literally can't spend their money quickly enough, they're doing stock buybacks for the exact same reason: it's a technique to distribute dividends without causing a taxable event.

We'll see when Dropbox files whether or not they are executing the same strategy. My guess is they are, since it's hard for me to believe you can't attain profitability on $1B in revenue for a file-syncing platform.


I assume their two biggest expenses are employees and the free product.

Drop employees and they are insta profitable, but innovation slows.

Drop the free plan, and they lose the cheap marketing they have going on.

What is the right play for them? Seems tough.


> Drop the free plan, and they lose the cheap marketing they have going on.

Is it cheap though when combined with wages it's more than they make?


Almost profitable is not profitable.


They're free cash-flow positive.

Consider that Amazon is also mostly not profitable but has staggering amounts of positive free cash flow.


> They're free cash-flow positive.

Do you know that for a fact?


Dropbox's CEO declared it as a fact last year and it has been widely reported:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-14/dropbox-c...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/dropbox-ceo-were-cash-flow-posi...

https://techcrunch.com/2016/06/14/dropbox-says-it-is-cash-fl...

But I have not personally inspected their financial statements and conducted an audit to confirm this with my own two eyes, if that's what you're asking.


They just built out their own data centers to transfer off AWS. I'm guessing that long term bet cost a few $$$


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