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Amazon rightly is very careful about closing accounts. This is why you have had a hard time thus far. When you say “invalid email accounts”, what do you mean? Are they perhaps addresses on a domain that you control? If so, it’s a very simple fix. You just re-create those addresses, then go through the “forgot password” process to regain access to those accounts.

If the addresses are on a domain that you do not control, well, that’s a lesson learned for you I think. In this case, you’ll need to continue working with support to explore what can be done.


We faced a similar problem with consultants on an old AWS account that had become obsolete. A week of back-and-forth with support ensued as we tried to figure out how to close the account. The process seemed excessively complicated since the only way to remove the consultants, who were merely members and not admins, required them to add a billing method first. It felt unreasonable.

Ultimately, we were able to close the account with the consultants' cooperation.

I get your point that it's wise to remove consultants promptly after their contract concludes, and I agree. However, this doesn't take away from the fact that AWS's account closing policies appear to be less than user-friendly.


No they’re not. I once had an unpaid bill of something like $1.36 from AWS. They shut that down and banned the whole account. I can never again use AWS with that email address lol.


It's certainly a lesson learned about who to hire and how to wind things down. I wasn't aware there was any issue until I started seeing these charges keep rolling through and had to roll up my sleeves and do my best to resolve it. Just as magazines and other services are not (now) legally allowed to make it difficult to cancel a service - I don't know how AWS can get away with this. If I establish that I am the legal owner of the business entity (who is not technical enough to deal with the problem), which could reasonably be done, it seems perfectly reasonable that there should be some kill switch available. What if I had a rogue employee who setup a run-away process in order to rack up charges? I can appreciate there is a risk management aspect to it for AWS - but this in my view rises to the level of deceptive business practice.


I think perhaps Hashicorp sees terraform as a loss-leader, at least partially intended to be an on-ramp to their other, much more costly tools like Vault and Nomad.


You can put it behind a NAT Gateway, but that also needs a public IP, and also is very expensive.


In situations where there many diversions, sometimes secondary airports either get too busy to accept additional A/C or run out of space or crews to deal with them.


Sure, that makes sense. Does that likely mean there were other flights with even less fuel that had to land ahead of this plane, or how do they triage that situation? It seems like a failure to triage properly if one plane has to glide, but maybe I'm naive about how close all of the other planes are to gliding.


No planes had to glide.

Planes diverted to Columbus until they couldn’t accept any more diversions, at which point the rest diverted elsewhere. If any planes had a genuine fuel emergency where Columbus was the only option, other planes with more fuel would have been rediverted elsewhere.


Your intuition is correct. The story as told by the parent is likely just due to a misunderstanding (or just lack of knowledge) of 1) the pilot's words over the PA and 2) standard procedures used in commercial air travel.


Especially in emergencies. Lights are turned off so passenger eyes can get used to the dim light and see the exit lights (which are not bright) better.


... and if it's dark outside, their eyes are adjusted to see in the darkness once they've evacuated outside the plane too.


There's no possible way the story is true as relayed by the parent. If the flight was indeed forced into a situation where there was an unpowered glide into landing, that airframe and crew would both be grounded for some time, not turned around and put back out for the continuance of the flight.


That flight certainly did not do any unpowered gliding. With their "20 minutes left" line, the pilot likely meant "20 minutes until we hit our reserve fuel", at which point they would be forced to declare a fuel emergency and land at whatever airport is available.


If so, the pilot would have done better to keep his mouth shut. Why the hell would someone say that to a bunch of passengers who are presumably totally untrained in aviation?


Because it makes no sense to assume that the pilots, at least one of whom presumably prefers to continue living, would just circle around to the point where the engines quit?

The pilots are in the same plane as you. They aren’t going to just let the plane run out of fuel because some person on the ground says “sorry, can’t land at this airport yet, hang out for awhile”.

If there was a real emergency they’d be putting the plane down on the nearest runway-shaped surface no matter what.

Further, I’d wager the pilot said something along the lines of “we have twenty minutes of fuel before we need to consider diverting to [alternate airport]” or something to that effect.


Absence of information is almost always way more scary (and sometimes leads to panic) than the presence of even a little of some.

Maybe pilot wanted to say what there is still enough time for them to keep waiting, but in that situation didn't though how that phrase would sound for the passengers.


RYM is an absolute gem. I’ve used it nearly every day since first hearing about it a year ago or so.

When trying to discover new artists, I typically start with one I know and then follow the genre rabbit trail and see where it lands.


I do this with Route53. Create a hosted zone with your subdomain - R53 will populate NS records automatically. Then, go back to your top-level zone and add those NS records for the subdomain.


Thank you!

After a little research, I was also able to discover FreeDNS from Namecheap (https://www.namecheap.com/domains/freedns/). Once I set up 5 NS records in my main zone for my subdomain and waited a half a day, the subdomain's DNS records were manageable from my Namecheap dashboard.


Perhaps consider a commercial glycol “beer line chiller”. Unlike your chest freezer, these are designed for 100% duty cycle. Combine one with some sort of a heat exchanger in your water bath and you may have some luck.

Or…just get an ice maker.


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