Don't take it too personally, they seem to be speaking from some automatic playbook.
I run indie conferences for a living [0]. From 2020 - 2023 we gave Matrix a serious shot: enough to risk losing audience members who found the UX unbearable. Then a third of my ticket holders threatened to leave if we kept using it. I was forced to drop it [1].
This year, I’m self-hosting Revolt, a lightweight Discord clone. Unlike Matrix my community's actually loving it. If Matrix leadership is reading this, take heed.
I'm not speaking from a playbook. Sorry that Element worked out so badly for you. Other conferences like FOSDEM seem to be pretty happy with it. If you don't need encryption, decentralisation, or an open standard, then Revolt looks like a reasonable FOSS Discord clone.
Glad you're not using any playbook. The commenter above us represents a growing sentiment worth considering. In my opinion, placating every negative feedback might backfire.
I'm trying to agree with the negative points (e.g. I fully agree that Element UX has historically been below par, hence all the work around Element X; elsewhere in the thread you can also see me agreeing about current & historical problems).
I'm not trying to dismiss them, but just explain that a) we did listen, b) we are listening, c) we're trying to fix it. Fwiw https://youtu.be/gHyHO3xPfQU?t=497 showcases what we've been doing. Perhaps I should leave all the "Matrix sucks" feedback unchallenged, but i'm trying to stand up for the work we've been doing to fix it.
Hope you don't mind the self-plug, but I'm helping run a community [0] dedicated to reviving the craft, with a conference [1] coming up in a couple weeks!
I've seen too many fellow programmers fall into this. It's almost like they can't help themselves: a normie, valid complaint about tech gets summarily dismissed through semantic quibbles (even when done in good faith.)
It's quite common with engineering-adjacent or some hard sciences people. Attacking the semantics as if imprecise communication makes it valid to use technicalities to go around the main message.
I've been guilty of being somewhat that person when I was younger. Until I realised it doesn't lead anywhere, you just become a pedantic boring person, not dissimilar to these hollow debaters talking fast over people on the internet.
Imprecise communication still annoys me when I misunderstand what someone said because they used it but life is so much better when trying to understand what someone actually meant to say, and conversing about that. It leads places, or at least to some understanding. The other side is just self-stroking your ego to tell yourself you are "smarter", or "more intellectual" than someone else.
"I know people who are primarily voting to preserve this FTC."
That would also be a grave mistake. Unfortunately, it is not possible to "vote to preserve this FTC" anymore. That possibility ended when Biden was pushed out.
Biden is a major reason, arguably the only reason, Khan and Kanter are able to do what they are doing.
Harris is pro-Silicon Valley, as in she has not taken any meaningful _action_ against it (cf. rhetoric). Biden is definitely not pro-Silicon Valley. He made the right appointments and nominations and "ordered" agencies to take necessary action; indeed they have.
respond to threats faster. and without direct involvement of the owning company, since their GPO or other updaters / control systems may also be compromised.
I run indie conferences for a living [0]. From 2020 - 2023 we gave Matrix a serious shot: enough to risk losing audience members who found the UX unbearable. Then a third of my ticket holders threatened to leave if we kept using it. I was forced to drop it [1].
This year, I’m self-hosting Revolt, a lightweight Discord clone. Unlike Matrix my community's actually loving it. If Matrix leadership is reading this, take heed.
[0] https://handmadecities.com
[1] https://handmadecities.com/news/new-discord-server/
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