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So you don't care how readable your code is?


It's readable. If you set your tabs to width 0 or 10 it's not my problem. And not a readability problem on my part.


I think it's just an information hoarding mentality. Like people you see on hoarding TV shows with stacks upon stacks of old newspapers just in case they "need" to refer to them one day.


The world doesn't work in this "bottom up" way. It's top down.


What do you think people should do?


You could say the same about a "nothing bad will ever happen" opinion like yours, except a different group benefits from it.


Doesn't it? You can google "how to make iphone app" (or whatever) and get a wealth of videos, blog posts, guides, tutorials, github repositories. You can join online communities to learn and ask questions. You can download all the tools for free.

My early days of programming were tinkering in BASIC and asking my parents to buy me "Learn C in 24 days" type books and hoping the compilers on the bundled CD would actually work. I had very few resources and had nobody to ask if I got stuck, except for other kids who didn't know much more than me. Seems a lot better now.


>I had very few resources and had nobody to ask if I got stuck

That's exactly the self-learning experience. You had simple foundations that demanded to be explored and conquered. My first programming book was a ~700 page Java tome because that was the hot thing. After I had read it start to finish I realized that I still don't know what programming is. Then I read K&R and the scales fell from my eyes. Programming is so simple and elegant! The OOP approach of Java teaches you to just put the things you think of into classes, which is like being handed a blank piece of paper. C has an internal logic and an emergent structure of possibility because it reveals limitations. This is even more so the case for BASIC. Nowadays getting into programming seems far worse than 2000's Java. Everything is a library, everything is answered on Google, all the languages are feature-rich and opaque, any computer is fast enough for the worst code. Why bother if there is nowhere to go?


The main restriction when I was starting out was the cost. Now pretty much any language you want to use is just a download away.


Hacker News does not like JavaScript.


You sound very emotional, maybe take a break?


Neither React or Redux use proxies or setters at all. Are you thinking of a different framework?


some lib recommended to remove all the redux boilerplate of react, uses proxies. It's mostly irrelevant though, the point is there's too much code running to do what should be simple things.


Ocaml does this too.


There's one footnote that ends up being a punchline, about five words long. The few seconds spent flipping from the page to the footnote lent it a certain comedic timing that would usually be impossible to portray in a book. That really stood out in my mind and I don't think it'd be quite the same by clicking a hyperlink.


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