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Unfortunately, you're right. I think it's a bit ridiculous that people are more offended by incivility than racism, though.


To be fair, that's a reasonable position for a person who's "not really racist, but holds opinions that they concede certainly sound racist when said out loud".


Interesting, I thought I was being restrained. While certainly angry, I didn't mean to shut off conversation.

Re: reasonable position

If you have an epiphany that you've been operating on stereotypes (which in this case are racist, IMO), and you want to share the wonder of having your eyes opened to something you couldn't see before, the first thing to do is not to stream those now-understood-to-seem-racist misconceptions -- especially with no discussion of them. You could, instead, talk about what you learned, or why you believed those bad ideas.

And I don't mean why, as in, "because some friends had a bad outsourcing experience." I mean, why are you operating on stereotypes and unfair reductions, especially when you already admit they are wrong.

What would you think if someone said,

"Amazing job. I know it's racist, but I always thought blacks were too busy sitting on their porches drinking 40s that they bought with welfare money. I know too many friends who've had bad experiences with black people. It must be really hard to run for President."

Would you think such a person is having a genuine epiphany and sharing true insight into their own misguided worldview? I would think that the author of the comment is doing a bad job of it, at best. At worst, I would think that person learned nothing, but would like to say something anyway.


I agree with you entirely and unreservedly. The scare quotes in my comment were to poke fun at the idea that a person who holds a set of racist opinions is somehow not a racist.

I do maintain that it is, in some sense, a "reasonable" position for a racist to be more offended by incivility than by racism. Not ideal, or even good, but certainly understandable.


I'd argue that the best way to learn anything in vim is to read the docs. When I first started with vim, I was just jumping in, trying to figure it out as I go. All that really yielded was frustration. Though I guess that frustration is what led me to actually read the help, so in a roundabout way, maybe I agree!


The vim docs are surprisingly great. With many ancient open-source tools I usually find better explanatory docs elsewhere on the web, so I used to spend time reading tips and things online for vim. Once you know the basics though, the vim docs are way better than anything else I've seen written about the editor.


Even so, I don't think most people would mind a disincentive for posts with titles that drastically overstate their content


I saw the link for ifttt on HN a few weeks ago and it reminded me that Pipes existed, and that I need to actually test the limits of what it can do.


Same here for me, but it takes at least one more generation to get back to the U.S. Civil War.


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