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As far as Nightly goes, I'd always imagine a debug/testing build would use more RAM by a fair margin.

elsewise, I'd say, try creating a new FF profile, unfortunately afaik older profiles can still jank up the browser a bit


Please note this comment isn't specifically to you, but, I guess more to any mozzarellian that comes across this comment

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for other reasons I wanna comment on the "seems pretty reasonable" bit

"In this day and age" what with fear and stuff being a main chunk of news , perhaps using a webext (which can really only modify a page to do any tricky cool stuff) is a bad thing?

(especially when it plays off of the pre-existing FUD by referencing hacking n' stuff!, but not my point)

same for any unexpected icons appearing in the toolbars! People are being told to be weary when using their browsers: look out for signs the pages might be fake or messed with, look out for unexplained installation of programs and addons, being hammered in from every secure site!

Its worrying that, I know it would fuck with my parents pretty bad WHEN it would be enabled, because there isn't much point in developing something for it to not be enabled! Especially when money is probably on the table, when higher ups probably rammed this through normal steps designed to prevent this sort of stuff (again)

I need something to give my parents, something that is ethical, something that cares about them, and something that works: chrome still works better for them, and mozilla seems really really keen on blurring the lines for the other ones (I know I know, it requires users to opt into shield studies etc, but man, I had a talk with my ma, "do you wanna contribute back to mozilla in this way?", please don't punish us for asking other less-techy people that.)

If you guys need easter eggs, probably keep them off to the side, in the settings or about sections


> People are being told to be weary when using their browsers

Freudian typo.


Yes, after the Dark Ages, Browser Wars, and burying Opera, I am increasingly weary to use a browser, any browser. And I am getting weary of the new "this site best viewed in Chrome", but it's almost as if nobody else gives a damn. Off to Palemoon, I guess? (And just when I thought that the new FF was looking good)


can't you install umatrix/ublockO in mobile FF?


That's all fine and dandy for the desktop case.

But its a dhcp server, network admins would be expected to touch config files, and the interface for a DHCP server really can't be much worse than the GUI version that microsoft supplies!

but digressions, to say "this is why I won't use a linux desktop" in response to a server-specific use-case, is at best antagonistic!


Pfsense does a great job offering a GUI for how configuring DHCP should work.


The used netgear router a friend gave me, does a fine job of getting my devices ip addresses on time without me touching the config.


In fairness, it is a sensible default for a dedicated hardware router, and not so much for a software DHCP server.


It's still a fair point, even if a little "off topic' wrt parent and still perfectly on topic wrt this submission.


"You should be able to run a command that doesn’t use the network, knowing that it won’t open a network port." Is the reader supposed to stop reading there? Because they must be using a different dotnet than everyone else, considering microsoft's dotnet does package management and download iirc?

"I don’t want your tools spying on you either." how virtuous. Some people don't care though, some people actually prefer it


"I don’t want your tools spying on you either." how virtuous. Some people don't care though, some people actually prefer it

Then it won't be a problem to disclose exactly what is proposed, get those people's informed consent, and leave everyone else alone, will it?


> Let me put this bluntly: If [weakening of encryption] is what the government winds up suggesting, then by all means hand me a bullhorn [...]

well how else would you interpret the statement that Australian law supersedes math?

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That aside, "We do not share customer data with 3rd parties, as it is not possible due to end-to-end encryption, except when we send things in plaintext, because of our moral obligation to the Australian government" is going to be a greaaaat addition to privacy policies for Australian companies. Going to go real well for international business.


that is referring to the daemons if I'm not mistaken


If you don't mind me asking, how are you getting the data? just site scraping each source?


It comes from Twitter! It is v expensive to directly subscribe to each wire service - also difficult to maintain scrapers for each. Many services already post links to Twitter - for the ones that don't it is easy to create an account driven by a scraper & maintain the common interface.

You can check out the code here: https://github.com/r1b/news-wires


and then suddenly, your signature goes from `f()` to `f(args,*kwargs)`, you lose all of make_money's documentation too



Can we vote on the governance of facebook and google like we do with the government? (where every person's vote is equal)

if so, where can I register to freely vote

edit: since it doesn't seem clear, my comment is sarcastic


If you vote, you probably have zero effect. The same person will win regardless of you vote.

If you stop using Google/Facebook services you deprive them of small amount of revenue.

Ergo, you have more influence by changing the servies you use then if you vote.


Sure, it's called the stock market. You buy a share and you get a vote.


facebook class B shares (the ones that Zuckerberg and other company insiders own) has 10x the voting rights of class A shares which you or I can own. They plan to issue new class C stock that will have no voting rights. this is the same structure in place for alphabet.

So it's not nearly as simple as you make it sound.


You can still buy alphabet shares with voting rights, they trade at a ~3% premium. (GOOG vs GOOGL)

Facebook is a different case, but in the examples prominently mentioned in the article, Google and Amazon are featured and they both give voting rights to stockholders, as does Microsoft.


Every country that has a functioning democracy has realised that money is not speech.

Every sensible person also realizes that this is not a solution. Have more money than someone else? Well, tough shit, your vote shouldn't be worth more. Stocks work the opposite way.


> Every country that has a functioning democracy that money is not speech.

You missed a verb. And in case you missed it, every democracy has elections, and in that case, money is equivalent to speech. Good luck in getting airtime/a platform without paying money.

> Have more money than someone else? Well, tough shit, your vote shouldn't be worth more.

In a company, that's absolutely not the case. Taken to the logical extreme, should I have the same say in the operations of Exxon, even though I have no financial interest in them, rather than a shareholder with 3% of the stock?


>You missed a verb.

As if I such a thing. Thanks.

>Good luck in getting airtime/a platform without paying money.

Funnily enough, I was talking about that in a previous HN thread. You'll have to explain to me how my country (France) functions then, giving equal air time to candidates, no matter their size, or funds. We even have communists! The state pays part of the campaign, and to give you an idea, the 2012 campaign cost a grand total of 227 million euros (or 400, depending on what you count in). That was with fifteen-ish candidates, let's say five major ones and 10 smaller.

For an entire month before the election, each candidate has equal air time. No matter their budget. No matter their size.

>In a company, that's absolutely not the case. Taken to the logical extreme, should I have the same say in the operations of Exxon, even though I have no financial interest in them, rather than a shareholder with 3% of the stock?

If I have one share and you have ten, you have (or can be assumed to have) more money than me, and your vote is worth more. Exxon is an easy example because their actions have a very visible impact on society through, let's say, global warming to only give one example. In that case, you bet I should have the same say. Let's take a normal company. Let's also take a more reasonable amount of shares for a major shareholder, such as 40%. (See how Facebook distributes its shares, for example, and the end result is not far from it).

* If that shareholder decides that he wants to submit to a vote taking all that you're earning through your share and redistribute it to him, should you not have the same say as a shareholder? If no, why? Because he invested more money? And that allows him to get even more money?

* If that shareholder decides to dump their waste in the local river, should you not have the same say as a resident of the town this river goes through? No? You didn't invest enough, so society gets to suffer this person's actions?


> You'll have to explain to me how my country (France) functions then, giving equal air time to candidates, no matter their size, or funds

Is this article true? https://www.thelocal.fr/20170309/rules-of-the-game-what-rule...

In that case, you'll have to get 500 signatures of elected officials. That seems even more chilling, because then you're on record for having supported a candidate, and if you're backing the wrong horse, there should be repercussions.

Also, it seems that now your airtime is proportional based on your performance in the last polls and election.

> Let's also take a more reasonable amount of shares for a major shareholder, such as 40%.

That is not more reasonable. Major shareholders for most large public company (pension funds etc) have percentages of the company in the low single digits.. Here's GM for example. http://investors.morningstar.com/ownership/shareholders-majo...

Most tech companies are relative newcomers and outliers. And they also seem to be outperforming older companies in the market. Perhaps centralization of control based on money and equity has its upsides?

> If that shareholder decides that he wants to submit to a vote taking all that you're earning through your share and redistribute it to him, should you not have the same say as a shareholder? If no, why? Because he invested more money? And that allows him to get even more money?

That's a good point, and it's addressed in "world on fire" where strict property rights and strict democracy always clash. Like it or not, most societies have a pyramidal society when it comes to power/wealth distribution. They're almost fungible - in communist societies, the powerful become wealthy and in capitalist societies, the wealthy become powerful.

The example you bring up (vote taking all that you're earning and redistribution); how is that any different from voted taxation? The vote of the masses is voting to take away the wealth of a small percentage of very wealthy people to "redistribute" the income.


>Is this article true? https://www.thelocal.fr/20170309/rules-of-the-game-what-rule....

>In that case, you'll have to get 500 signatures of elected officials. That seems even more chilling, because then you're on record for having supported a candidate, and if you're backing the wrong horse, there should be repercussions.

Yes and no. It's missing a few details.

First off, elected officials that can give their support can include our 36000ish mayors, and around 10000 other servants. The repercussions come from your own electors, yes. But don't be too afraid, unless you're cosigning on the FN's project (in which case you will most likely be a FN mayor yourself), repercussions are limited. You have to face your electors with the fact that you signed on for a particular candidate, but this is almost universally seen as part of the regular flow of our elections, and very little as partisanship.

>Also, it seems that now your airtime is proportional based on your performance in the last polls and election.

This is an absolutely terrible decision that we're fighting the best way we know (which, you guessed it, is protesting), but bear in mind that it only applies to legislative elections, for the national assembly. And since it is based on previous year's results, Macron's party gets something like 5% of airtime, compared to the PS which gets 30ish percent. It seems to be pissing off enough people that things will probably change.

However, I do agree with you, this particular law is utter crap, and should be removed.

>how is that any different from voted taxation? The vote of the masses is voting to take away the wealth of a small percentage of very wealthy people to "redistribute" the income.

The key difference is the mass. Yes, that's tyranny of the majority. But I prefer that to a single person having the voting power of many.


> You have to face your electors with the fact that you signed on for a particular candidate, but this is almost universally seen as part of the regular flow of our elections, and very little as partisanship

To the electors perhaps, but aren't there unspoken repercussions from party leadership on not toeing the line? Also, if a particular party/ideology controls the media, it's very easy to enforce conformity with the party line.

> But I prefer that to a single person having the voting power of many.

You're fundamentally going to have that anyways. No matter what, if you have power/money, you're able to influence great quantities of the electorate by throwing around that power.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-election-idUSBRE...

If the ruling party/entrenched elite is able to influence the elctorate like that, the tyranny of the majority is absolutely terrible. Sure, TVs were really cheap for a few days, but now no TVs are ever imported again.


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