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May I ask why do you want to ditch emacs and in favor of what?

Not OP, but I feel strongly about this.

I've got a lot of Lisp experience, and love Emacs' values and ecosystem. I still use neovim regularly because of a tangle security, a sound sure-footedness of action, derived from consistency and latency. It takes a combination of confident action on the users part and confident response from the machine to perpetuate the user's experience of both speed and intrusive confidence. (IMO) Emacs fails to deliver this experience plainly in latency due to the main thread blocking (even with more the 8MB of RAM). It fails partly due to the greater variety of modes and (as an evil user) lack of "core" support for Vim bindings, creating a higher sense of care and vigilance, but I really that could be over-come if one's config is kept small and the ecosystem tuned more towards robustness and optimization in visible UI, tactile UI, and multi-threading.

In favor of what, I don't know. Something that explicitly aspires to feature-parity with a modern-emacs stack (vertico/corfu/marginalia/transient/tramp), but which sacrifices some aspect of the platform's flexibility (eg. make plugins use transient and allow consistent global user prefs) to prioritize consistency, latency, and robustness for the sake of UX.


It's the same in modern Italian: dolce (sweet) and piccante (spicy/strong)


> Nor was there corn for polenta

Before corn, polenta was made with barley: https://historicalitaliancooking.home.blog/english/recipes/a...


In my mind, polenta was just another word for porridge, which means it could be made with literally any available grain.

It's just a roughly milled grain, boiled until a certain consistency.


> Just look what happened to Federal President of Germany, Christian Wullf, when he declared that Islam is part of Germany.

What happened to him? By reading the Wikipedia article, he seems like a very corrupt individual in a position of power. I don't see how Bild was involved in that.


I wonder if this will be another effect of higher-than-0 interest rates. With tech companies choosing to leave cloud service providers in order to reduce their costs.


You sell an art-piece you own to yourself (hidden under several layers of shell companies based in various island-nations) for 5 million.


Well they didn’t go to war with another country, but the great leap forward massacred millions of chinese citizens.


If we’re going to go into history and massacring your own people, then America isn’t entirely the example you want to emulate.

Remember the whole Native American massacre thing that America has convniently forgotten about.


I think there is a bit of a difference whether the massacre happened in the 1860 or 1960, and whether the last larger massacre of protestors happened in 1970 and is generally, officially and publicly recognized as a bad thing with memorials etc. [1], or whether it happened in 1989, involved tanks and hundreds to thousands of deaths, and people are persecuted for even mentioning it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings


Well, when Mao was doing his great leaps, American citizens had to literally had to march in the streets for basic civil rights. Again, not exactly a clean record.

Glass houses and stones and all that.

Point is, in the living memory of most people on the earth, i.e. people below 30, the only wars waged against non-neighbors have been Americans invading Iraq and Afghanistan. So from the place most non-Americans stand, America is a belligerent and irresponsible power.

What someone did in 1960 is important and can't be glazed over, but as a 30 year old, it's hard to understand and even harder to contextualize. But Iraq and Afghanistan is fresh enough in everyone's memory, to the point that I remember the headlines about the fake WMDs and the numbers about civilian deaths.


Very true and I’d also add something about ongoing effects. For example, while it’s true that the United States isn’t massacring native Americans in open combat right now, a 30 year old is going to have seen at least news about tribal poverty rates, broken promises about things like water rights or development, and the national guard working at the behest of oil companies to remove protesters who don’t want pipelines running through tribal lands. (Repeat for the heavy-handed response to black people protesting against police brutality, etc.)

That’s not the same as Tiananmen square but it’s far more visceral lived experience for anyone under 45.


Can you for one moment be not west centric? Ignoring tschetschenia , georgia, Ukraine, first Afghan invasion, the uighurs, the Tibetan, mount karabach, kashmir, Syrian proxy wars, Serbs vs Bosniaks, Yemen and all those funny little conflicts the lesser empires engaged in the last 30 years. They did not always go medieval, but did so only because the US would deter the worst.

The US is not the center of the universe and lots of influence sphere pushing goes down in lots of backyards.


There is a difference between doing it on purpose (ie: evil) and doing it by mistake (ie: gross incompetence). The outcome is the same but the comparison is still not valid. One cannot be corrected, the other has a chance of being corrected.

This seems to be what's happening today. China has moved on and is now on track to become the world's first economy (at least by size) and the US is still the war mongerer it always was.


From a outsider point of view I prefer countries that kill their own people instead of mine.


What kind of argument is this. So engineers have to pick between working on a long weekend and not shipping any code without any option in-between?


On that note, does anyone know if there’s any decent lemmy mobile apps? I searched a bit but couldn’t find anything meaningful


https://join-lemmy.org/apps this page lists various Lemmy interfaces. I've just joined the mlem testflight and it's decent. It also seems to be improving quite quickly now that people are flooding to Lemmy.


For Android there's Jerboa which seems to have the most features and Liftoff which is still getting there. Personally I like Thunder which supports iOS as well, I got it off GitHub


While Jerboa is an app created by the core developer of Lemmy, it's not as official app and the developer treat it as a personal project and freely blocks any instance he don't like there. I understand it's within his right to do so, but I still find it concerning due to his association with Lemmy and how many people think it's the official app.


> or politics

As far as I've noticed those politics discussions boil down to different degrees of reverence for Deng Xiaoping, and if one is slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders you get banned.


No offense, but it's obvious you haven't spent much time in these communities.


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