huh? I hardly feel threatened by basically everything you just listed there. Do you?
I get the feeling if you asked most women: "Do you think men are awful?" The answer would be "Yes but we love them anyway."
and, to be on a less cutsey point.
There was a time in my life where I was seriously depressed, and it was not because I thought society treated men poorly on average. It was because I thought I would have no place in society.
So at the very least for this poster, my experience directly contradicts you. Hardly scientific, but I trust my own eyes.
> I hardly feel threatened by basically everything you just listed there. Do you?
Seeing a bias and pointing it out does not equal "being threatened". Would you speak this way to a woman who was pointing out, say, anti-female bias in hackathon results?
> I get the feeling if you asked most women: "Do you think men are awful?" The answer would be "Yes but we love them anyway."
The fact that you accept the "yes" at the beginning of that answer reflexively illustrates my point precisely. Remember that the adjective I used to describe majority of the bias I referred to was subtle, not blatant.
> There was a time in my life where I was seriously depressed, and it was not because I thought society treated men poorly on average. It was because I thought I would have no place in society. So at the very least for this poster, my experience directly contradicts you.
I think you are misconstruing my post as a reflection of my life situation. Nothing is really verifiable over the Internet, but I can assure you that it is not.
huh? No. I was talking about my life only. I'm sure you're wonderful.
To be clear, I don't actually believe that the thought "Society treats men so poorly, and I'm a man" is a thought that is pushing you towards depression, or anyone to depression. I don't believe would depress anyone. I do believe it outrages you. I would agree, some of those things seem pretty outrageous!
I'd have a hard time believing you were actually depressed if you were to assert that the reason you were depressed is because you didn't like the way society treated men. I would not believe that at all. It would deeply contradict my experience with depression.
> It would deeply contradict my experience with depression.
And I think that that is where the problem is. You are assuming that your personal, anecdotal experience with depression is representative of all cases of depression for everybody.
It's dangerous to make assumptions about why a comment was downvoted. Such assumptions can lead to a growing gulf of misunderstanding and resentment, even to seeing enemies where there are none.
sure, blaming things willy nilly when you have little substantiative proof can clearly produce some highly antagonistic and overly entrenched thinkers. I C what you did there.
Oh now wait a sec there. I'm not sure you and I are on the same wavelength here.
Just to contextualize this. I just got done watching the pilot episodes of bee and puppycat [1], I was feeling very very mellow at the time of writing. It's hard to believe that people perceived any aggressive posturing or tone there.
I'm always interested in improving my communication skills, and it seems my writing style has included a posture that I did not mean to convey! Can you tell me what contributed to the tone you detected? I simply am not able to detect it, and that may simply be because it's hard to critique you're own writing.
No kidding. I really thought Hacker News was better than this, but a large number of the replies here are little more than parroted MRA talking points and other myopic comments.
I get the feeling if you asked most women: "Do you think men are awful?" The answer would be "Yes but we love them anyway."
and, to be on a less cutsey point.
There was a time in my life where I was seriously depressed, and it was not because I thought society treated men poorly on average. It was because I thought I would have no place in society.
So at the very least for this poster, my experience directly contradicts you. Hardly scientific, but I trust my own eyes.