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You absolutely need to be called on your bullshit.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25777429
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/25689065
Both posted this week. Here's the issue: the UK and Europe's mental health programs are so shitty that citizens don't even know that there's a problem.

I remember a viral article that went around a year or so ago: "Why French Kids Don't Have ADHD." The article was full of the usual horse shit and, of course, it triggered the usual stimulant witch hunt.

Interestingly enough, though, a response came out to that article interviewing a French doctor who basically said that French kids do get ADHD, and that it's under-diagnosed in France because it takes way too long to get treatment and because the French distrust medicine.

So unless you think denial is the solution to mental illness, you seriously need to get off your high horse.




Your first post is a link to an artie saying that English mental health care needs to be better. I agree. There are many problems with English MH care. I have no idea why you think that article is relevant to this person's treatment' so perhaps you could explain that?

The next article suggests that people in society are stigmatising and need more experience to spot signs of mental health problems. It finishes with an anecdote of a student with depression who isn't thrown out of university and locked away, but who is allowed to continue with their education.

I genuinely have no idea why French treatment for ADHD is relevant. I bet ADHD treatment is shitty in a bunch of countries.

EDIT: you say that people in the UK are not aware that poor quality of MH treatment. That's not true. People are well aware that there are longer waits in MH treatment and that bad practice happens. Looking at the Cornwall report and Winterborne view we see some shocking abuses. But that's the point - these were shocking. Some of those involved will never work with vulnerable people again. Others are in prison. Everyone accepts that the treatment was not acceptable.

The closest thing to the treatment in the original article is detention under section 136; this is the power that police have to take someone who is in a public place to a place of safety. That place of safety is usually a police cell for a maximum of 72 hours. But there are strict legal protections there too.


Please edit your post to remove the whitespace in front of the URLs. That will turn them into clickable links.




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