On: 20 Years of "Not Even Wrong"

[dambi0]

The anecdote doesn’t reveal a great deal about toxicity though does it?

[Nevermark → dambi0]

The list of things the anecdote doesn't reveal must surely be infinite. Do we need to list them?

I thought it was very interesting.

[dambi0 → Nevermark]

The anecdote claims to offer something about toxicity, it seems reasonable to consider whether it achieves this.

[kergonath → dambi0]

Maybe I missed something but I don’t see where they claim to offer anything, so I don’t see why they should try adhering to this (completely unreasonable) standard.

Besides, the anecdote actually offers something: a perspective from someone who escaped the grinder just in time. I don’t have a cohort study at hand, but I know both first- and second-hand that the situation described is not the norm, but all too common. In such cases, the correct response is what was described: jump ship whilst you can. You don’t need a double blind study to demonstrate this when simple logic is enough.

[dambi0 → kergonath]

Perhaps we are using claim in different ways.

In the anecdote the author claims that the former group was toxic and that this was one of the reasons that influenced choosing a different group.

There are two claims about toxic behaviour. They are not the only claims, topics, or other interesting things one could draw from it.