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Maybe it time we make it easy for people to host thier own clouds… Like Nextcloud. All in one at home server with Owncloud Plug-N-Play. While we are at it, have it ready to go for hosting emails and Federated Social Media.

To be honest, it would be a challange, but totally doable.

Decetralize the interenet once again!




This is techno-utopianism. The problem isn't technical. Your grandparents won't figure out how to host their own cloud or use Mastodon. Your friends who work at art galleries or in construction won't figure it out either. The reason centralized services proliferate is that they cater to the vast majority of people who don't care about this stuff.

"How do we limit the harm of misinformation while preserving our freedoms?" That's a political problem. We can't just code our way out.


This is what most people here dont seem to understand. If you are banned from Facebook/Youtube/Google/Twitter, for the mainstream public (That is, 90% of the people) you are effectively banished from the Internet. This is like a candidate not being covered in the NY Times, WP,LA Times, but it is OK because the "Quarterly Express" in "Chinook county" published a 2-pages interview.


ISPs have shown increasing comfort with delisting sites they deem bad. I'm a huge proponent of commoditizing data hosting, but the culture today leans heavily toward "filtering" information.


It's not really culture. It's a small minority of radical extremists who get their own way repeatedly by threatening meltdowns out of all proportion to the severity of the problem, and emotionally manipulating their own managers ("you're a bad person if you don't do this"). And they do it again and again, until the organization starts to collapse and becomes a mere tool for their political agendas.

The best way to push back on this is not some p2p techno fix. It's to systematically start firing anyone in an organization who demands the moral cleansing of customers or colleagues.


ISP Censorship is next on their list… They are going to push normal discorse underground and bad ideas will just fester instead of being natually filtered out in the proving grounds of public discorse.


Then there will be calls for cloud providers to remove "misleading" clients. (Read: AWS + Parlor, Cloudflare, etc)

What we really need is a legal designation of a "public square" online that protects free speech online


A "public square" online designation would effectively be the nationalization of whatever service gets that designation.

I, for one, don't think the US government should be in charge of Twitter.

Taking private companies and forcing them to say certain things is not how I'd like this country to evolve, and as long as the 1st Amendment exists, is not how it will evolve. "Public Square" designations for private companies cannot exist alongside the 1st Amendment, period.


OK, and then what happens when a cartel of the big companies decide what and who can publish stuff?


I agree, but my solution was self_hosted at home, not on big tecks slippery back. But I guess the same could be said by your ISP.

Although with the increasing use of private gaming servers and streaming, ISP’s are starting to acommadate the gen_pop with decent upload bandwith finally.

Who know, it wont be long untill ISP’s start filtering content on a massive scale.




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