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And this is exactly why the apps failed: even HN readers don't know how they work.



And that's really a shame. It has the power to make an even larger dent in the epidemic. This is the cult of ignorance at play, where mistrust of all institutions (heavily fueled by need to get clicks to serve ads) means we can't have nice things.


There's some truth in what you're saying, but mistrust of institutions is completely rational in light of history. Empirically, ignorance in this context would be unskeptically trusting institutions.

That it strays into the irrational at times is as human as the inevitable corruption that fuels the mistrust.

For someone without full knowledge of the technology to assume (in this case wrongly) there's a privacy issue is entirely practical. It's an assumption that will be correct far more than it won't.


I really like what you touched on in this.

People are responding to fear of past president. One could argue that it is highly unlikely that it will happen again. One could even PROVE that it is NOT happening again NOW - but you are still dealing with someone responding out of fear.

I feel like we are seeing the exact same phenomenon with (SOME) people who respond out of fear of catching the virus.

I would be really interested to learn more about why some people 1) are fearful of government tracking 2) are fearful of the virus 3) aren't fearful of either.

Personally I've watched my self move between all 3 over the past year - it has been a WILD ride


I’m not ignorant just because I don’t want to be tracked, and slinging insults like this just reaffirms my beliefs :)


You are ignorant though. The whole point of EN is that you CAN'T be tracked.


Yeah, that’s the claim, but it conveniently ignores all the metadata that ties a particular device to certain places/times/events based on the other rotating IDs they’ve seen. It’s like Nintendo 3DS StreetPass but bad.


How do you ensure you're not tracked? That your location history is not sold to every bidder?


It's not an insult directed at a single person. I'm echoing Isaac Asimov's critique of American culture: https://aphelis.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ASIMOV_1980_C...




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