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You're misunderstanding what they're trying to test. They're testing your raw ability to manipulate algorithmic structure in your head. It's important that you have to visualise the data structures and manipulate them without being able to look it up. It's an brainpower test, not a workflow test.



Which is fine if your job is really going to be centred around developing algorithmic software in a unique or high pressure way. The problem is most software engineering day jobs are nothing like this, so the test is not a good filter.


I always say that you aren't qualified to work on the hardest problems you can solve, so to check if someone can do the job you need to ask them to do something harder than you expect them to encounter. People who work at the edge of their ability makes tons of mistakes and are very slow, and it isn't very fun for them either.

It is the same as if you expect a warehouse worker to regularly lift 20kg then you don't test your hires if they can take 20kg at their best, because then you will get a lot of people who simply can't do the job for 8 hours a day. Instead you'd make sure they can lift 40 kg or so to ensure that lifting 20 kg regularly wont be a problem.


Yeah maybe, but these hardcore algorithmic "leetCode" things are like asking the warehouse worker to design a logistics system instead of seeing if they can carry 20kg boxes. The vast, vast majority of software jobs out there involve more soft skills (requirements, planning, scrum and other processes) and "plumbing" libraries/frameworks/data layers together than implementing algorithms from scratch. I'm not saying you'll never have to do it, but it's going to typically be a small proportion of your day job, so why test this stuff so much at interview stage?


The point is that designing an iteration that does something should be a trivial operation requiring no thought at all. If you can leetcode problems then we can be sure that you can do loops without effort, otherwise it might be that you struggle with them and as a programmer it will really hurt your productivity. Testing if you can do loops doesn't test if you can do loops easily, so we test something requiring a bit more thought.

Edit: And I think that you'll find that most leetcode problems are pretty easy if you are an expert at doing loops and recursions.

> I'm not saying you'll never have to do it, but it's going to typically be a small proportion of your day job, so why test this stuff so much at interview stage?

It isn't a small portion of your time spent at Google at least. Almost no engineers at Google ever talks to non technical people, product managers or engineering managers does that. Most engineers works to reduce cpu usage of backend servers or build scalable features for backend servers or similar stuff. Even high level decisions like deciding what service to use requires more engineering hours in time spent refactoring the thing than engineering hours spent deciding what to use, so there is much greater need for people who can code than people who can make decisions.

And if you argue that Google is bad at making new good products, that isn't the fault of their software engineers since they don't decide what to build. Instead it is the fault of VP's, and those don't do white boarding interviews.


I mean, I can see why they would want to test both. Horsepower is a good indicator.




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